Much Ado About News

[misscam]

*stares*

People are just so charming.

So, not only does she get her dad into trouble, she could've ruined that teacher's aide's life (those accusations stick like glue), and for added bonus, that sort of shit is what makes it harder for people who experience real abuse to get believed. Sigh. Though some of the reactions over at GAFF kinda wig me out too. Not a great fan over ever advocating violence, me.

Meanwhile, an official Pentagon document reveals how the US plans to 'fight the Net'

And, in a grand finale, the document recommends that the United States should seek the ability to "provide maximum control of the entire electromagnetic spectrum".

Am I the only one finding that possibility vaguely disturbing?

In other news:
Hamas invited to form government (This ought to be interesting - but still, if IRA can to a certain degree reform, so might Hamas.)
Gas supplies to Chechnya cut off
Poll suggests Norwegians want referendum on state/church seperation
Euro qualifying draw

Comments

[scarlettgirl.livejournal.com]

I think I'll join you in the crank.

This, coupled with the vague insinuation by someone who has the ability to be a public pain in the ass (which is making me seriously consider locking my journal), is making for a very bad day on the information highway.

Bleh.

[vixenmage.livejournal.com]

*grins*

Bush has finally decided to get you back, Cam. Heee's waaaatching yoooou.

*headdesk* It won't let me on GAFF, as I'm not a member. What did she do now? And... news like that would make Dumbledore cranky.

[speshulduck.livejournal.com]

Those GAFFers a violent bunch, neh? As for the Pentagon stuff, as if I wasn't already scared enough of my government...

[chem-nerd.livejournal.com]

Gotta watch out for the electromagnetic spectrum. That visible light emmanating from your monitor? Yeah, IT'S A TERRORIST AND IT"S OUT TO GET YOU!!!!! And the infrared light radiating from your stove that cooks your noodles? IT's HARBORING WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!!!! AND IRAQ IS AFTER YOUR MICROWAVE!!!!!The federal government can be really stupid. Not all of the electromagnetic spectrum is dangerous. Just most of it

I'm not in favor of violence...but I would have no problem putting that girl in the stocks for a couple of hours.

((I would like to apologize for my horrible abuse of the Caps-Lock and exclaimation point. It was most naughty of me, and I deserve to be spanked.))

[belegcuthalion.livejournal.com]

Am I the only one finding that possibility vaguely disturbing?

No, you're not. I am scared... but not surprised. Not at all.

And that silly brat should be sentenced to 30 hours of social work among abused women... to learn what she was speaking of, that dumb, little goat.

[smalldiver.livejournal.com]

That girl should be punished severly. I'm not sure how yet, but to make up something like that is terrible. Thank God the accused aide wasn't named in the press.

It sickens me how much power students have over their teachers in matters like this.

[dusk-in-dendera.livejournal.com]

I do so enjoy your commentary on the world's collective stupidity ^^

[evilstorm.livejournal.com]

Seriously. That was my first thought too. "What the fuck, they want to be able to control radiation? How the hell d'you control light, gamma rays, x-rays? --What?"

And then I figured that they probably meant the media, but...yeah.

[knorg.livejournal.com]

When the war for the internet is fought it won't be by governments, it will be by 14 year old kids using names with more punctuation than letters.

[git-the-goddess.livejournal.com]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/25/army.study.ap/index.html

Have a look at picture... "Army troops listen to a speech by President Bush on Monday in Manhattan, Kansas."
Wait, that's the *army*? Not a group of brand new, still-untrained recruits?

[roguem.livejournal.com]

*shakes head*
Will someone please stop the stupid.

[musemistress.livejournal.com]

The internet business scared me...this picture makes it a little better.

I think.

But if those kids are the ones to be put behind a gun aimed at my pc...then it's not going to be a war on Bush's hands, it's going to be Cybernetic genecide with no one being a winner. Unless it wakes up the world in time...but I guess this will become that lovely Brave New World scenario with a touch of 'Escape from LA'.

And people wonder why I have such little faith in humanity.

[git-the-goddess.livejournal.com]

Cybernetic genecide?

Maybe... more likely a world-wide civil war. The conditions for Godwins' Law would be immediate, to be followed by Putts' Law.

Geeks would rather quickly look at how the attacks are happening and move to block them... the internet would change rather than die.

[talestra.livejournal.com]

Hm, main objective of Hamas is elimination of State of Israel and liberation of Palestine entirely using whatever violence necessary including suicide bombing.
Since majority of Palestinians voted for them, what does it say about position of majority on peace and co-existence? After all, the main claim was always that majority is a peace loving non-violent people there and only few support acts of terror.

Personally, I'm happy about the results. First, because Palestinians showed their true face, and second, because Hamas will have to change if they want outside support, or face the consequences. And unlike former government they have the ability to really stop violence.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Palestinians showed their true face

*Excuse* me? I realise you're Israeli and thus have a certain viewpoint, but look beyond your own fucking bias for a moment, eh? Why did Hamas win? Because Fatah has been running a corrupt regime and Hamas, while also enganging in terrorism, run several very sucessful social programs and generally are percieved as at least honest, if honest murdering bastards. They ran the election on internal issues. They won it on internal issues, not because the Palestinians are that fond of them, but because they'd tried the alternative - Fatah - and it had only made them more miserable. And poorer. The Palestinians on the Gaze strip are pretty much the poorest people anywhere, in addition to being daily humiliated by Israeli check-points. If you actually took some time to consider how their life is, maybe you could get a better understanding of the situation. And if Palestinians did the same towards Israeli, maybe you could get peace finally.

But while the kind of attitudes you show here rules, I haven't much hope for the Palestinians or the Israeli, quite frankly. And maybe Israel will win and Palestinians will be wiped from this Earth and you will have "peace" and living space and what the fuck not. But you sure will have killed yourself in the process too.

I detest violence against civilians in pretty much all its forms - Hamas's, Israel's ("Targetted killings", airstrikes, the murder of an innocent man right in my own country), the London bombings, the terrorism of the IRA - but I am not so blind that I cannot see why these happen. They happen because people lose hope in peace, because they learn to see violence as the way, because they are poor and have nothing to live for and everything to die for. You can kill terrorists forever, but you won't defeat terrorism unless you deal with the cause. In this case, you have a people with no future. Partly because of the iron grip of Israeli occupation, partly because Arab countries have screwed them over, and partly because their own leaders - Fatah - screwed them over. They can't do as much about the first two, but they did get the option to do something about the last. And because Hamas has always been the counterforce to Fatah, they reaped the benefits.

But I do hope you're right that Hamas will change, as the IRA has, and I sure fucking hell hope certain Israeli attitudes change too. Because as it is, the whole thing is a show in how fucked up humanity can be. On both sides.

And now you provoked me into a lengthy response, but quite frankly, I found parts of your comment repulsive. Give me some hope for your region and at least consider what I've said, please?

Some reading, if you are interested - you might want to note the first story, that reports poll showing *84%* of Palestinians want a negotiated peace agreement with Israel.
Polls show majority in Palestine does want peace
Reports on election
Q&A
A closer look at Hamas
World calls for Hamas to change

[nenya_kanadka]

provide maximum control of the entire electromagnetic spectrum

What, like control visible light? X-rays? Radio waves?

...oh! So it's the US government that's stopping us from having FTL. Aha!

*lightbulb moment*

(Don't mind me, I'm half-asleep.)

[talestra.livejournal.com]

Tell me would you voted for someone whose main agenda is genocide and war? I don't think so, even if other parties were corrupt. Btw, why it suddenly Fatah corrupt? I mean, for all these years Western world supported them, pouring money there, they didn't realize it? Even when they saw that the life there was so miserable?
I still stand on this that the ones who voted for Hamas support their actions or at least consider them acceptable. They risked alienation of many countries and possible violent reaction of Israel (and I did cursed when I heard the reaction). You have to be pretty convinced to vote in this case. Hell, Hamas presented removal of settlements as their victory, which added points to them. If they really hold best interest of Palestinians people they would remove destruction of Israel from their agenda. So far no change.

It’s hard to judge the situation, when you are not there. You have to trust that information you get is correct. And I can tell you right here that practically everything that I saw on, say CNN or BBC, is somewhat biased. There are so many subtle ways to tint the picture that you won't even notice.
Palestinians aside (I might be biased here), but Israeli side almost never represented fairly. How about UN resolutions about Israel that never even mention acts of terror from the other side. Come on, at least admit that both sides are to blame.
And I don’t recall seeing many videos about demonstrations, where you can see faces twisted with fanatical hatred screaming murder. And there is probably a lot of nasty and genocidal propaganda that never makes to international TV. I understand that you have to trust my word on this, but something like this on our TV would be absolutely impossible, forbidden by the laws.

Israel – Egypt. In the moment Egypt offered peace, the peace was made.
Israel – Jordan. In the moment Jordan offered peace, the peace was made.
Israel – Palestinians…..
Which side here is more uncooperative? Israel army was pulled from territories (well, it was come and go few times, as a results of bombing), Palestinians have their police and government, Arafat was offered a joined administration of Jerusalem, settlements were evacuated (partially, but the process will continue). Now please, someone tell me at least one thing the other side did? Well, Fatah did removed eventually from their plans elimination of Israel (I think).

I look at the people around me and they hate Palestinians, but still do not wish to fight. We are here lazy people who want to ride the bus without checking suspicious objects. And if for this we require peace with Palestinians, so be it. The reason that people in general moved politically right (harder on Palestinians) was result of extremely dense period of bombing, right after Arafat was offered almost everything he wanted and walked away from it. Well, I lost my faith then.

Whether there will be peace here or not, I don't know. The Israel simply doesn't have necessary guts to exterminate every Palestinians, to become executioner. But on the other hand we do not want to roll over and die or leave, to become victim. That's the problem here, the only choice is between victim and executioner. And we do not want either (we do have the means to wipe them out, but we don't do it, despite general opinion that we do). Do you think there is other option? I guess we have to feel somehow that other side wants peace, because 84% is just number, with no action behind this. I did hear other numbers btw. Which one of us heard correctly? Who knows. *thoughtfully* But 84% do not sound realistic, they do have many reasons to hate us (and I can't denied that Israel hold blame).
Oh, I can assure you that freedom of speech and press here are real. So I doubt that we are being brainwashed here.

There was so much blood between two sides here, that if we will try to talk about what was here 10 (Israel), 100 (Islamic country) or 2000 (ancient Israel) years ago, we will get nowhere. We just have to close that book and start over. I believe that we made enough effort to promote peace, the effort that was barely recognized, which I guess what irks me the most.

[talestra.livejournal.com]

And I think comparing intentional targeting of civilians (and I’m not much bothered by attacks on settlers and soldiers, I’m talking about coming into cafe and blowing himself up) and accidental deaths as a result of surgical strike is a bad taste. Which, by the way no matter what you think, are carefully planned to avoid casualties, after all, it would be much easier to kill terrorist leaders without concern for civilians. Come on, they hide among civilians for a reason; they hope that Israelis will not target them there.