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Right. So, Olympics have started (awesome opening ceremony, and Norway got a silver today - are any of you watching?) and Georgia and Russia are apparently somewhat at war (bwhuh?) and I spent the weekend doing very non-productive, silly things while it rained. And rained. Thanks, Norway.

Today, it's so very Monday in that oh-so-very-not-good way. So I distract myself with fandom thoughts.

Holocaust LOL macros - anyone knows what this is about?

I generally tend to favour a sense of humour about most things, but er. Er. There are still some things I find to cross a certain threshold in my mind and fall over to the side of Not Funny or in some cases, FFS So Not Funny STFU You Insensitive Git.

This post linked on metafandom about fanworks drawing people into ships got me pondering. See, I tend to be drawn in by some Canon pandering to a particular ship, but I don't actually tend to do fandom for them unless there's already fans and fanworks for it about.

How about you? Fanfic or other fan-made stuff ever drawn you to like a ship, or make you participate in fandom for it?

And while a lot of Who fandom are distracted by David Tennant as Hamlet, I take the opportunity to declare that I totally hate Hamlet as a play. If I could smack Shakespeare with it, I would. Give me Macbeth any day. (But not Romeo and Juliet. PLEASE.) Tennant is hot and Patric Stewart is brilliant, but I still hate the thing. Anyone else want to own up to this?

Publisher drops book about one of Muhammad's wives. There's been some discussion about it over at Smart Bitches, Trashy books here and they also have a review of the prologue and a link to where you can read it yourself. There are some debating in the comments as well. Interesting, at least until some trolls arrive and starts with the eeeeeeeeevils of Islam. (Speaking as an atheist, I have my issues with some Islamic practice. But so I also have about Christianity and even Buddhism, my if-I-ever-had-to-pick-one-of-them religion.) There really are different worldviews a-clashing at times.

The X-Files movie tanked a bit, didn't it? It just opened here - I'm not sure if I want to go, though I'm fairly sure I'll buy it on DVD eventually.

Summer is almost over and various TV shows seem to be getting new promo material and will have episodes in not too long. But Battlestar Galactica will have nothing new until January and woe. Where is the shiny trailer and some stuff to tie us over, SciFi? Don't make me come over there and start camping outside your offices. I'm sure I would get more people with me, too. We could make it a camping trip. I'd bring alcohol.
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Date: 2008-08-11 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ice-feather.livejournal.com
I stuided Macbeth in college a few years ago. It's what got me into Shakespeare to begin with.

I know little of Hamlet, save for the basics, but you're not the first who's said Macbeth is better - Gareth David Lloyd said the same at the Rift con earlier this year when he was asked about other roles he'd like to play.

I would like to see Hamlet though, if only because Tennant and Stewart are amzaing actors and it would blow my mind to have them performing in front of me, in person. I hope I can get to London for it next year.

Date: 2008-08-11 12:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
Olympics have started (awesome opening ceremony, and Norway got a silver today - are any of you watching?)

I love the Olympics! Italy's not doing bad at all, we won a gold and a silver today already (and we're expecting more from our kickass foil girls in a few) . It feels slightly weird, my country giving me cause for pride, lol.

Congrats to Norway for its first medal, what was it for?

Fanfic or other fan-made stuff ever drawn you to like a ship, or make you participate in fandom for it?

Not sure I have to answer this with, you know, your fic prompting me to give BSG a try a few months ago (omg, has it been only a couple months? Times fly).

Date: 2008-08-11 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smtfhw.livejournal.com
Right. So, Olympics have started (awesome opening ceremony, and Norway got a silver today - are any of you watching?)

Yep, though it's very much dependent on the sports. I'm watching the swimming and the tennis and that's about it...

Date: 2008-08-11 12:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trialia
We could! If only I had airfare... I'd totally do that.

I'm taking 'five things/times' prompts, btw, if you're interested ;)

Date: 2008-08-11 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Macbeth eats Hamlet for breakfast. At least in my head. I don't know if it's because Macbeth is shorter (Hamlet seriously drags in places) or it's to do with my total loathing of how women are portrayed in Hamlet, but something with the latter just makes me twitch.

So I'm not sure even Tennant and Stewart would be enough to make me suffer that play again. Since I'm not likely to go to London any time soon, this is a moot point though.

Date: 2008-08-11 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercuriazs.livejournal.com
Oddly enough, I keep getting people saying that my latest (and onliest) fanfic in Nolanverse Batman is drawing them to my 'ship of choice. Which is how it sometimes works for me! I got into a few Buffy 'ships due to fanfiction that was astounding. Sometimes I will read fic/look at art for canons I don't know, but that rarely draws me in aside from making me go, "D'oh! I should check this out someday." (Stargate: Atlantis, for instance, is one such fandom.)

Date: 2008-08-11 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anamin.livejournal.com
Generally, no. I need to experience a fandom, and see it, regardless of fic. I'll read other ship fics, but I won't necessarily be drawn toward that ship. Usually, I'm pretty firm about this.

Date: 2008-08-11 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xmaidelx.livejournal.com
The X-Files movie tanked a bit, didn't it? It just opened here - I'm not sure if I want to go, though I'm fairly sure I'll buy it on DVD eventually.

I went like... three weeks after it opened in the States. It was fun because me and my friends were the only three people in the theatre. So you can hoot and holler. Otherwise, wait for DVD.

Where is the shiny trailer and some stuff to tie us over, SciFi? Don't make me come over there and start camping outside your offices. I'm sure I would get more people with me, too. We could make it a camping trip. I'd bring alcohol.

Let's GO. You have official trip person #1.

Date: 2008-08-11 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilstorm.livejournal.com
*headtilt* Would I be lynched if I said that I'd laugh at Holocaust macros? It's not that I don't care, I just...happen to be able to detach, observe, be amused, and then come back to self.

(ibarw is making me do a lot of "would I be lynched if..." comments. Sigh.)

Date: 2008-08-11 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Sports often boost a country's morale, so it's not weird at all. After our 1994 Olympics, Norway was all a-buzz with pride in ourselves. we might even have gone a bit too far...

Swimming! First time ever. We have this new, young swimming talent, so yeah. He's the guy to the left in the picture. It's cool. Summer olympics is not really our strength, but we usually pick some medals here and there.

Heh, yeah. You're one of my proud recruits. I feel glee at all I manage to draw in, but you were a little extra.

Date: 2008-08-11 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I'm an athletics girl myself.

Date: 2008-08-11 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mingsmommy.livejournal.com
I credit your fanfic (at least partially) with getting me to watch BSG, but I totally ship on my own. And every other ship I've ever had has come after love of the show.

Totally agree with you about Hamlet vs MacBeth. Nobody comes off looking too good in Hamlet.

Religious intolerance makes me roll my eyes in the worst way. As I heard someone put it one time, "An argument between religions is like saying 'My invisible friend can beat up your invisible friend.'"

Date: 2008-08-11 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Ïf it brings me BSG, I am willing to sail the stupid Atlantic.

Date: 2008-08-11 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smtfhw.livejournal.com
I like to run but for some reason have little interest in watching other people do so... I was a (not very) competitive swimmer in my teens, still love to swim, and love to watch it and I've never been a tennis player, but thoroughly enjoy watching others play.

Date: 2008-08-11 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Always hugely flattering when that happens :)

And I can read good fic for a ship not of my choice and enjoy it, but I can't say it's crossed me over to ship it. Still, might happen one of these days.

Date: 2008-08-11 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
*nods* I'm mostly the same.

Date: 2008-08-11 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I'm thinking DVD at the moment. I still need to see the Narnia movie and everything. Plus, I love DVDs so much. Shiiiiiny.

Okay! Bring your own sleeping bag - I'm bringing the aquavit. SciFi can't ignore us forever.

Date: 2008-08-11 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Not lynched. I mean, I laugh at some WWII comedies and sense of humour is something very individual. But we all got our limits and I guess somewhere around there is mine.

Date: 2008-08-11 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilstorm.livejournal.com
Okay. That's good to hear. I understand about personal limits. I swear to god, I do think the Holocaust is an awful awful thing and its (continued) victims have all my sympathy and support, but I'm fucked in the head and can laugh at anything. I'll probably be making jokes at my parents' funerals (*touches wood*), put it that way.

Date: 2008-08-11 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah, I totally need the show myself. Needs to have had something there before I fall for it, though some fanfics have made me go 'hmm, interesting, I could kinda see that' at ships I don't go for. I can read fanfic for a lot of things if it's good, but what I ship doesn't really change too much with that.

(And I love how many people on my flist have started watching BSG now. It spreads!)

Yeah, by the end of that play I'm almost relieved they all snuff it. The only tragedy for me is how long it takes to get there.

Hee. Yeah, too true. I'm perfectly happy with faith staying just that - faith. Once one or the other pushes itself as undisputable truth, I tend to get cranky.

Date: 2008-08-11 01:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
One more gold and a bronze, yay. (The gold is the third foil Olympic gold in a row for Vezzali, who's almost a legend now).

Hello, gorgeous. I approve of your new talent, though I'd need a swimming suit pic to fully appreciate.:P

Hee. I'm easy to convert, though.

Date: 2008-08-11 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It's not so much the running as all the other stuff. The jumping, the javelin, all those technical events. Don't know why I love watching them - it's just relaxing and fun.

Date: 2008-08-11 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh, I think it's entirely possible to have empathy and still find humour in things. I mean, after the bombing in London, I remember several Brits made jokes about the French being unhappy about the Olympics (the day before London had gotten the 2012 games) and some Harry Potter related jokes, and I laughed. (Amusingly, some American took huge offense at these, which was a bit bwhuh when there were Brits making them and laughing at them and hey, that's how the British are and it was their tragedy to deal with, hello.) But it can be a tricky balance and people are different, you know? I know *I* would be uncomfortable, but that's me.

Date: 2008-08-11 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denorios.livejournal.com
I don't like Hamlet either. I'm only going because...well, David Tennant and Patrick Stewart!

And I quite liked the X-Files movie. It was a bit less...spooky and paranormal than I was expecting, bearing in mind it's the X-Files, but I did enjoy it! Plus, it's Mulder and Scully, so I was never going to complain.

Date: 2008-08-11 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xmaidelx.livejournal.com
I think I'll be making an A/R sleeping bag.

Where can I find the material with their faces on it?! OHHH!!! QUILT TIMEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
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