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ARGH BSG.

Those kind of cliffhangers should be illegal. ARGH ARGH. Even if I have read some spoilers and have ideas about what happens, ARGH. I just have to get that out of my system first. But this episode is fucking epic, so lets get to it.

Stuff I liked:
- Acting, really good in this episode. A lot of the actors turned in great stuff, but I must mention EJO especially this week, because damn.
- Laura just casually walks out in Bill's robe and gets coffee in front of Saul. Bwhaha. His reaction and her reaction to his cracked me up, as did Bill's whole casual 'why yes, I AM doing the President, you were saying Saul?' (And she's reading a book, I love this continued book thing with them.) The following 'domestic' scene with just Laura and Bill felt bittersweet - she shows she can't quite let go of presidential habits, he shows he knows it, and their affection for each other is clear throughout. They really do see through each other and she lured one of his rare laughs out too. Oh man, these two kill me. Also, I did note that Saul and Bill's conversation mentioned the tylium ship situation as happening a few days prior, so in my head, Laura and Bill spent those days reading and frakking and being happy. Shut up, it's real in my head.
- Laird's death. Not a huge or important character as so, but one fans would recognise and feel something for and fuck :(
- That not all those on Gaeta's side were total assholes (though some were), and that Zarek and Gaeta do have some good points at times. It fits with BSG's colour spectrum, where things rarely are black and white. It also shows that humans can do really bad things to each other over divisions that make sense - the most heartbreaking kind of conflict that can be the one you understand why happens, when it's very hard to find someone to direct your anger at completely.
- Kickass!Kara returning. I know [livejournal.com profile] lotus79 was verrah happy with this and the saving of Lee with following kiss, and really, Lee and Kara like that I can totally be fine with. It's not my ship, but I like the shift in balance they are. Kara gets to do all the stuff that traditionally the male will do in a couple and is hardcore. Also loved how they went to find mummy, as it were.
- Tyrol. Rocking it, organising stuff, maybe the one of the Five that can be be the bridge between the Cylons and humans. Saul doesn't want the job, Tory seems to have gone a bit too far the other way, Anders is still mostly being pretty.
- The anger in this episode, both Adama's and Gaeta's. I really felt it, and those two are not done with each other. But Gaeta, you're going to die horribly. Really, you are. Laura is going to kill you with brainpower alone if nothing else.
- Return of Pegasus crew and stuff from season two! Really reminds me how much has happened in this show.
- Tigh and Adama are so BFF. It really is love, just not romantic kind. The way the old men just kick ass in this episode as much as the younger ones just crack me up. Not to mention at the moment the epic romances of the show is Tigh/Ellen and Laura/Bill. It ain't all about the young 'uns. I like this.
- Baltar and Roslin cracks me up. The way she got use of his wireless was smashing, her speech was great, and Baltar's attempt to talk Gaeta out of it was so Baltar. Baltar just really wants to be a hero sometimes. It's too bad he's so crap at it and really good at surviving instead.
- President Roslin, please be here to stay again.
- Adama and Roslin suck face in front of everyone present, managing to be awesome, hilarious, sweet and heartbreaking all at once. I love how he puts his guns down and walk up to her very steady and deliberately, not looking away, and just goes for the kiss. She's obviously caught by surprise for a second, then is totally into it. Lee is adorably uncomfortable, Kara is all 'I'm not going to watch this, lalala', Baltar looks like he wants in on the action, and the whole thing is a bit 'Adama and Roslin show everyone how they feel about each other. WITH TONGUES'. Which I'm all for. Then they go and break my heart by Laura whispering to him with her voice just a little unsteady, her hand in his hair and kissing his head and the look on his face when he pulls back abd looks at her. GUH. I love how he doesn't really say much and still manages to communicate to her and to us watching how he feels. She knows he's staying, he knows she's going, because they're the President and the Admiral and they love each other and that is part of the package. I love how Baltar has to rush them, because they really don't want to let go of each other but they are who they are. Really, they kill me.

Stuff I didn't like:
- NO CLIFFHANGER NO
- It is also totally depressing so see people turn on each other. Oh Gaeta, what have you done?
- Racetrack :(
- Um, I will think of more later when my brain isn't overloading.

What should happen in the next episode(s), no concern for spoilers:
- Kara and Lee kick more ass and has adrenaline!frak, just for [livejournal.com profile] lotus79.
- Zarek goes out in battle like a revolutionary should.
- Helo, Athena, Anders and Caprica Six break themselves out and proceed to kick ass.
- Bill DOES NOT DIE.
- Tigh DOES NOT DIE.
- Laura DOES NOT DIE and also is awesomely Presidential.
- Gaeta does not get to die heroically in battle, but is instead captured and made to face the consequences of his choices.
- The aftermath of the mutiny is not black and white, and has people on both sides regret what went down.
- Bill and Laura has a reunion that kills me for all the right reasons.
- Cavil reappears, gets blown out of the sky, Galactica finds a lovely planet and they all live happily ever after. The end. Shut up, I can live in my delusions.

A week, how am I going to survive a week until next episode? ARGH.

Date: 2009-01-31 12:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
Can I just say a big ITA to your 'what should happen in the next episode(s)' section?

We can be delusional together!

Date: 2009-01-31 12:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
Yes. Most especially the adrenaline!frakking. Pretty please? Up against the wall?

Date: 2009-01-31 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvery-lass.livejournal.com
Are they still on season 4?

I read somewhere that there was only going to be 4 seasons. Have they found Earth yet? I mean the original series had them found it, although after that everything went to pot.

Date: 2009-01-31 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Delusionville has top accomadation, have no fear!

Date: 2009-01-31 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You can always just write it :P

Date: 2009-01-31 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
This is season 4.5 - we had a half year of mid-season break.

They found Earth. It sucked.

Date: 2009-01-31 02:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
I would. Only I'm meant to be writing Schisms. I think if I posted anything else before I got chapter 3 done I'd get lynched.

Date: 2009-01-31 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Not if it was wall!sex.

Date: 2009-01-31 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvery-lass.livejournal.com
Did they found present Earth again?

Date: 2009-01-31 02:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
Perhaps not. But I still fear the ratio between time spent and end result wouldn't be worth it :(

Date: 2009-01-31 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uangel05.livejournal.com
So I just started watching bsg like two weeks ago. I knew it was a show that I wanted to watch at some point, and I had some free time, so I started with the mini-series and couldn't stop. I was so spoiled by getting to watch it all right after each others that I can't believe I have to wait a whole week to find out what happens!

And I totally am all for your suggestions. If Tigh dies, I'm going to be so pissed.

Date: 2009-01-31 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Er, well, that's the question. We're not sure if it's our Earth, an alternate earth or some planet that Earth will later be named for, past!Earth, future!Earth... We don't know.

The Earth they did find was an irradiated mess. Ooops.

Date: 2009-01-31 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You have no faith in yourself.

Date: 2009-01-31 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
If Tigh dies, I think the screaming of BSG fans will be heard in space.

And heh, you're the fourth person on my flist to get hooked on BSG this month. It really is a smashing show, and watching it all in one go like you did, is lovely. I did that with the three first seasons. The waiting is a killer - the half-year gap between finding Earth and the episodes we're into now was a killer. At least you'll only have to suffer with the rest of us for a few more weeks. Then it's all over. Wibble.

Date: 2009-01-31 07:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
You've figured me out, yes.

*giggles at the original comment*

!

Date: 2009-01-31 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miri-d.livejournal.com
ITA to this whole post. Especially the last section (what *should* happen). And also what I/you didn't like. But I don't think we're going to get a big epic parents!reunion scene because they already kind of did that with The Hub :\. And that's just how writing TV shows works (if anything happens, it will be in the background or offscreen, like the damn New Caprica reunion *makes a face about that*). You don't want to rehash what's already been done.

OMFG THIS CLIFFHANGER : OOOO. IT WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD ONE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO LAST A WEEK NOW ;W;. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S CRAPPY LIKE THE NEXT TWO/THREE WEEKS PROMISE TO BE.

The parents totally made out in front of everyone ♥. That made my night (I was expecting it to be a quick little goodbye peck).

Date: 2009-01-31 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wintergreen126.livejournal.com
this episode is fucking epic

YES. which is why i'm okay with it being a cliffhanger. i want this to get the screen time it deserves.

i loved the roslin and baltar exchange. and LOVED seeing roslin being all awesome and everything. i'm glad to see her kicking ass again (oh gosh, the previews for next week!)

Laura and Bill spent those days reading and frakking and being happy.

hey, i pretty much assumed the same thing. so that makes two of us.

have a great weekend :o)

Date: 2009-01-31 10:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lily-winterwood.livejournal.com
So say we all on the last part. Totally.

That parting scene, as Bill watched Laura leave...it totes broke my heart. *sniff*

Date: 2009-01-31 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elen-ancalima.livejournal.com
ARRRGHHGHGH pretty much sums the episode up. Can it be next week now please?

I loved Laura and Bill in this, especially the two moments you moments you mentioned (the drinking coffe bit and the no-nonsense kiss :-)).

Can nobody die next week? Pretty please?

Date: 2009-01-31 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hadria.livejournal.com
This was Bill Adama jumping Galactica into the atmosphere to rescue humanity from New Caprica - level of EPIC.

I thought this was EJO's best episode since probably early on in the first season. That's not saying he was bad before, he was just THAT good for me in this ep. Like he hit every fucking scene out of the ballpark, especially when he's being taken into custody. Like I think his glare finally reached Supernova levels of omgscary. I really don't know how Gaeta didn't just shit himself and give up right there. Like, HE KNOWS Bill Adama is going to bring down the anger of God on him when he takes back the ship and it's not going to be pretty. I. CAN'T. WAIT.

OMG SPACEMOMMY AND SPACEDADDY WITH THE TONGUES IN FRONT OF THEIR SPACECHILDREN AND UNCLE TIGHLON = BEST SCENE EVAR.

Date: 2009-02-01 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com
It seemed perfectly clear that the two lines of dialog about "wasn't that a few days ago?" and "well, apparently it didn't take" or whatever were there only to let the audience know that this scene isn't eight hours after where we last left them. Otherwise there's absolutely no reason for the lines.

(Also I love that she's in The Big Brown Bathrobe)

Date: 2009-02-01 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teenwitch77.livejournal.com
I can't believe how effing awesome this episode was. Oh Gaeta, this isn't going to end well for you. Loved Adama and Roslin being all openly hot for each other - everyone's faces were hilarious! And I'm so happy with Kara/Lee being all season 2 esque.

EVIL CLIFFHANGERS ARE EVIL.

Re: !

Date: 2009-02-01 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Probably won't get something like The Hub again, you're right. But that wasn't just a reunion, that was also really setting up what we're coming to now. RTM seems to have a huge love-on for them though, so I'm hoping there will be something. Doesn't have to be major with EJO and MM doing the acting.

I'm so glad I am insanely busy this coming week. It'll so help me survive the wait. Because ARGH.

When Adama does something, he does it properly. If he's going to kiss his President in front of everyone, he's going to damn well do it good ;)

Date: 2009-02-01 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I would be more okay with the cliffhanger if a week wasn't such a long time. Whine, whine. But yeah, from a storypoint of view, this arc obviously needed more than one episode.

I think it makes more than two, judging by other comments to this post, heh.

Date: 2009-02-01 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I KNOW. The look on his face, and hers... Kill me already, why don't you, show?

Date: 2009-02-01 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Sadly I fear more will die, since this is BSG and the writers are mean :(

Times like these, time itself should really come with a fastforward option. Damn.

Date: 2009-02-01 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I was amazed Gaeta didn't just roll over then and there myself. Seriously, not only has he managed to piss off Bill Adama, but also Laura fucking Roslin, who can give Bill a good run for the money in hardcore and wrath any day. With bonus Kara-onna-rampage and Saul Tigh's Vengeful Eye. It's going to be epic. MUST. HAVE.

EJO really was kicking this week. EJO is fab in most he does, but he hasn't always had a lot of material that really offered to bring such a wide range of stuff as in this episode. I love his sweet stuff with Roslin, but damn, I forgot how much he can bring it.

YES AND CRAZY UNCLE BALTAR TOO. He was totally enjoying the show a bit too much, hai. But I forgive him because I was too.

Date: 2009-02-01 12:45 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lily-winterwood.livejournal.com
Seriously!

But you know, heartbreak means emotions....which might lead to fanfic....;]

Date: 2009-02-01 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
EEEEEVIL.

Oh, Gaeta is so dead. It's just a question of who gets him first. Kara, Bill, Laura or Saul. Either one is going to be bringing epic wrath. Poor Gaeta. Do not fuck with the extended Adamas, SERIOUSLY.

Poor Lee looked traumatised, hah. Obviously he knows his father loves Roslin from Sine Qua Non, but he probably wasnt expecting that practical demonstration. Oh well, Lee got a bit of action from Kara himself, so he shouldn't complain.

Date: 2009-02-01 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yes, and last we saw them was in Roslin's temp quarters - she must have moved over into Adama's place in that day or two and then spent a night there.

Think the podcast for the episode mentioned time had passed as well, which Gaeta had used to plot his plan. So yeah, been a day or two.

(She was looking good in it, truly. It really felt like such a married couple scene in many ways, especially with the level of comfort they had with each other.)

Date: 2009-02-01 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicklet73.livejournal.com
I absolutely agree with all of your things which must happen next episode. ARGH TOO MANY DAYS UNTIL THEN.

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