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Do you remember Hellfire? I bet those of you who do wish you didn't. For those of you that don't, this is Hellfire, infamous for her hate of Islam and her love of incest - the real kind. With her father. Who made sexual advances to her when she was 15 (but that's okay! They only consummated when she was 19! Really! NO), and that she's apparently still in a relationship with.

And now she's back once more to defend her and daddy's twu wub. (I gagged a little in my mouth as I wrote that.) It starts on page two and goes on.

In my experience (and in the experience of the great many incestuous people I've taken the time to befriend online) having an incest relationship is about learning to be friends, family and lover all at the same time. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible for the family role and the lovers role to not be in conflict, actually what happens is that two roles peacefully coexist. Most people have a natural aversion to incest, but for whatever reason, some of us don't; I just happen to be one of those people. I have obviously had non-incest relationships as well, but I always end up going back to my dad (he's got such a sweet personality and I think he's sexy). Overall I'm far more attracted to related people than unrelated people, and I'm not ashamed of this fact, it's a part of who I am. (...) Incest IS pure and perfect. It is all types of love rolled into one.

ARGH.

No dear, having an incest relationship is a lot of the time about having been fucked up enough by your family that you can't see beyond it. Your father is not the love of your life. Your father is a fucking bastard who has screwed with you in more than one way and still is. I bet my waffle he is the source of your Islamophobia too.

I'm always so torn between wanting to feel sorry for her and wanting to scream at her. But then I remember her mentioning wanting to have children and raise them in incest-y glory and shag them when they come of age, and my brain just wants alcohol.

ETA: For extra fail, she invokes Martin Luther King for her 'yay incest!' cause:

One person can change the course of history, like Martin Luther King and how he fought for the equal rights of black people. If a single person can change the course of history, don’t you think that even a handful of us can make a difference for all incestuous people, even though we must go about our battle in a different way at first? All we need is enough faith in ourselves, and enough faith that the truth about the positive side of incest, our online testimonies, can win over the hearts and minds of non-incestuous people. I for one do have that faith.

OH NO YOU DIDN'T.

Meanwhile, tomorrow is May 1st and gloriously a public holiday. I have serious writing plans and am working on three fics at once. Oops. The weather is supposed to be fab tomorrow as well, so I might curl up somewhere outside and write. I love May. It's the best month of all and hopefully will be this year too.

I got tagged by [livejournal.com profile] meryl_edan for ten random facts about me.

1. I was born during the cross country women's relay in the 1980 Olympics, and my father was pissed because the smoking waiting room only had a black and white telly. I was also two weeks overdue and a not-easy birth.
2. My reading speed was tested several times in school, as it's something like three times the average and they wondered if I really could read that fast and still comprehend what I was reading. I can.
3. Listening to football reports on the radio on summer Sundays while reading a book in the garden is about my most favourite thing in the world, and could only be better if I had a hammock and some hot guy was serving me cool drinks during.
4. I was the headline footage on a national newsbroadcast when I was ten - in red tights and a pink Minnie Mouse sweater.
5. My favourite candy is a kind of pepper candy known as Turkish Pepper. It's actually from Finland.
6. I don't like gold jewelry that much and vastly prefer silver.
7. I don't go anywhere without a book in my bag.
8. I'm a raid leader in my World of Warcraft guild, and is also known as the one who makes naughty jokes, have three WoW-'husbands' in a harem and is sometimes nicknamed 'the human megaphone'. Yes, well.
9. I love football. Twice a year, I go to football matches with my mother. To watch her team and my team against a local one, as we both like teams from Northern Norway. My father doesn't care about teams, only football tables. Hah. When they go abroad, I always get a text message like two minutes after all the matches are done, demanding results.
10. I sing "Beautiful Savior" at the family Christmas dinner, and my brother reads how Jesus was born from the Bible - this despite my whole family being atheist. Yeah, I don't know. It's just tradition.

I tag no one. Hah.
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Date: 2009-04-30 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scullyseviltwin.livejournal.com
Okay, so I went back and read all of those cracked out things. WHAT THE WHAT!? Oh morning, you are now good. Thanks Cam, as always, for the crazy.

Date: 2009-04-30 01:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] marcasite.livejournal.com
ut then I remember her mentioning wanting to have children and raise them in incest-y glory and shag them when they come of age, and my brain just wants alcohol.

OH
MY
GOD

I did not know about Hellfire but I think I threw up a little in my mouth reading this.

O_o

Date: 2009-04-30 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonburst.livejournal.com
The thing about incest proponents, at least when they actually do engage in that sort of thing, is they significantly increase the likelihood of the recessive (and deleterious) mutations that we have actually joining with another recessive mutation of the same kind, and thus killing the baby. So don't worry, if this Hellfire ends up having a child with her father, chances are it will have PROBLEMS in a genetic fashion in addition to those oh so wonderful family issues, that is, if it actually is alive.

The thing is if these incestuous people only ever procreated with their own family, they would soon die out. The thing is, when these people decide to procreate outside the family, it puts the rest of humanity at a higher risk of deleterious genetic mutations actually being expressed. Which is why most countrys tend to have a law against incest.

Date: 2009-04-30 01:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] skybound2
*shudders horribly* You have no idea the amount of effort it took for me to just get through that quote you posted. I have no doubt that if I were to actually click on that link, that I would become sick to my stomach almost immediately. Consider me one of those that has an extreme natural aversion to incest. *shudders some more* How can she not see that she has been completely fucked in the head?! Her father is a disgusting bastard, and I hope like hell she turns out to be sterile....*is highly disturbed*

Date: 2009-04-30 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I always aim to please!

Reading all of Hellfire's crazy takes stamina. I'm impressed.

Date: 2009-04-30 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah, pretty much my feeling typing up this, and I've known her for a while. I even used to chat with her, before all the crazy broke.

Date: 2009-04-30 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fonar2005.livejournal.com
By the way, what is the weather like in your city?

Date: 2009-04-30 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh no. She doesn't want to have kids with her father. She seems to realise that would lead to genetic bad. She wants to find another lover of incest who is doing a parent or sibling and have kids with him - while carrying on with her father too.

So yeah, I'm deeply disturbed.

Date: 2009-04-30 01:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
Ugh.

We can laugh all we want at the crazy or stare in horror/fascination, but when I read this:I remember her mentioning wanting to have children and raise them in incest-y glory and shag them when they come of age my reaction is not going for alcohol, but calling the cops and/or mental health inspectors, because her hypothetycal children should never have to go through this nightmare.

Date: 2009-04-30 02:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
You bet your waffle? *fights back images of do not want*

Happy May 1st, in advance. Though I will see you tomorrow and wish it again. ;)

And ugh, Hellfire. Why is she back? Why?

Date: 2009-04-30 02:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] skywardprodigal.livejournal.com
RE: Hellfire. SO MAD AT YOU. SO. MAD. AT. YOU.

!!!!!

Have some lapdance. !!!!!

(SO MAD AT YOU. YOU BELONG IN A CORNER!)

And here I thought karnythia, fightingwords, carlanime and delux-vivens were bad.

!!!!!!!

!!!!!!

Date: 2009-04-30 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meryl-edan.livejournal.com
Thanks for honoring the tag! And I love that you paired it with the rest of the post of crazy--it's actually news to me that people like this exist. (I clearly need to spend more time on the interwebs...or perhaps not?)

Also, have I mentioned that I enjoy that you're Norwegian and talk about Norwegian things? I threw rocks at Norway once from a mountaintop in northern Sweden. (Swedes made me do it!) Sadly, I've not set foot in your fine country, but I'd like to.

Date: 2009-04-30 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonburst.livejournal.com
Oh, dear. That's a completely different kettle. Now I'm disturbed too. O_o

Date: 2009-04-30 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] norwegianne.livejournal.com
2. My reading speed was tested several times in school, as it's something like three times the average and they wondered if I really could read that fast and still comprehend what I was reading. I can.

I always maintained that I wasn't a fast reader, it was just the rest of the class that were incredibly slow. ;)

We had these books that we were meant to read, and the teacher would pause us after so and so long time, and we'd mark where we were. And then there were questions to what we'd just read, to check the comprehension level. I usually managed reading it twice, with time to spare, (I really couldn't be bothered with a third time) and got the questions right. My teacher took it up with my parents, as she tested me several times on it, the result was that the 15 minutes a day/week (?) the parents were supposed to spend with their kids practising their reading was transformed into extra math minutes for me. I was not pleased.

One of my sisters is heaps and bounds ahead in her reading speed of her class-mates, but we still mock her as "the slow reader," which says something about our family and reading, I suppose.

Date: 2009-04-30 02:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] marcasite.livejournal.com
I went back to read that post and noticed that (Awesome post, btw, not sure how I missed that the first time). I saved it to go back and read the links but don't quite have the stomach for it now. Ugh.

Date: 2009-04-30 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oszras.livejournal.com
Oh God. I had managed to forget about Hellfire for awhile. God.

I used to pity her until she busted out with that wanting to have kids with another incest minded person and bring them in on the horrible, horrible situation she was living in. Then I had this crazy mix of outrage and pity going on...Yeah, I don't think I will be clicking on that link. I don't think I would survive the flip flopping emotion I seem to get whenever she is mentioned.

Call me crazy but I like my wank funny. And Hellfire...is not funny. (Alcohol never seemed to help when I encountered her, it just made it worse.)

I love that you have a harem in WoW. :D I find that kinda awesome.

As for #10, I get you. I have things I do for Christmas that is tradition even though I'm not a Christian. Go figure. I think it's the tradition you know? It just makes me feel better. Like when I'm having a sucky day I eat Reese's cups. I dunno, it just makes me feel...better. *shrugs*

Date: 2009-04-30 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denorios.livejournal.com
*gags*

Oh man, I remember her. Oy. I feel you on the half feeling sorry for her and half wanting to vomit. Girl has been seriously screwed in the head.

Date: 2009-04-30 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You definitely don't want to read some of those links then. I didn't even paste the worst of it, really. There are parts where she goes on about the completeness of her love with her father, and ye gods.

Her father has really done a number on her - the hate she has for her mother is highly disturbing as well.

Date: 2009-04-30 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colorstoobright.livejournal.com
What you cannot unread.... ugh. I am choking on my own gag. Thanks so much, Hellfire.

Date: 2009-04-30 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Right now, sunshine and completely blue sky. Very nice.

Date: 2009-04-30 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Well. She doesn't have kids as of yet. But I do know her real name and some other info, and another girl and I did try to consider what we might do.

So I didn't just stare in horror.

Date: 2009-04-30 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I was eating one for lunch as I typed the entry up, you git :P Friday is usually waffle day, only we got Friday off so it turned into waffle-Thursday instead.

To make this week yet more hideous to me, probably.

Date: 2009-04-30 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slickmeister.livejournal.com
As soon as I saw the header I thought: "Hellfire? But I thought she fell off the edge of the earth."


I was wrong. :/

Date: 2009-04-30 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
LOL at that link. Bwhahaha! That's just funny-wrong, that is.

... And I'm sowwy. But imagine how I felt when this chick I'd been chatting with, even exchanged real life info with and various things suddenly reveals she fucks her daddy and is a raging racist? I felt unclean for weeks. Months! Years! Still do!

*takes waffle with to corner*

Date: 2009-04-30 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elrina753.livejournal.com
That is... I have no words for what that is. Wrong doesn't even BEGIN to cover it.
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