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FBI Joins War on Porn

The new squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against "manufacturers and purveyors" of pornography -- not the kind exploiting children, but the kind that depicts, and is marketed to, consenting adults. (...)

But Gonzales endorses the rationale of predecessor Meese: that adult pornography is a threat to families and children. Christian conservatives, long skeptical of Gonzales, greeted the pornography initiative with what the Family Research Council called "a growing sense of confidence in our new attorney general."

Okay then!

Obviously, there are cases of explotation in the porn industry, but this fills me with a sense of foreboding. As an atheist, I'd like religious morals off my sexual preferences, thank you very much. I didn't invite you. It ain't consensual. Sod off.

Course, not really my problem, since I'm very happily Norwegian, but what the US does concerns the world the way the power structure is these days. And I ain't liking the trends of late one bit. War on Sex Ed, War on Porn, War on Evolution... War on What's Not Right According To Us?

No, I don't like it one bit.

Originally from [livejournal.com profile] buttercup87
If you had $1500 to spend just on fun stuff, (nothing logical like paying bills), what would you buy?

Because I am Norwegian, I shall do it in kroner - 8000 say.

Pop-Tarts from the US - 500 NOK
Sims 2 + expansions - 1000 NOK
DVDs - CSI season 5, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Silk Stalkings seasons, Water Rats - 2000 NOK
Tyrkisk Pepper - 200 NOK
Candies for the cat - 500 NOK
Leather boots - 500 NOK
CDs - 1000 NOK
The Meaning of Tingo - 200 NOK
Globe - 300 NOK
Books - Agatha Christie collected works, History of Middle-earth, Illustrated LotR, CSI books, CSI Companion - 1800 NOK

I tag: Porn defenders ;)

Date: 2005-09-28 02:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
I consider myself tagged!;P

Date: 2005-09-28 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
How decidedly naughty of you.

I need a naughty icon.

Date: 2005-09-28 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] me2you.livejournal.com
They can take our porn, but they'll never take our smut fic!

Or something.

Date: 2005-09-28 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
now see, that would be cause for revolution.

Date: 2005-09-28 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilstorm.livejournal.com
I don't mind http://hootisland.com type porn; can well understand why one would ban exploitative-type porn, though. Although of course I get your point, and agree wholeheartedly.

Also what the hell doesn't the FBI have anything better to do, like, say, catch the freakin' terrorists already. Yeesh.

Date: 2005-09-28 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I'm not gonna stand here and defend the porn business - it's full of sleazy capitalists - but hey, so are most businesses. But as long as there has been artsy man, there are been some kind of porn/erotica about. It turns us on, or a large portion of us anyway.

And as long as no one is hurt and it's all consensual - and by FBI's own admittion rarely actually breaking laws - I don't see what the fuck business it is of the FBI. They should have better things to do.

Date: 2005-09-28 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinneahtes.livejournal.com
adult pornography is a threat to families and children

Oh, please.

Here's a better idea for helping families and children: Fix poverty and education as much as they can be fixed, and quit with the bullshit distractions like "no gay marriage!" or "no porn!"

Oh yeah, and quit setting examples of "What we want is always right, so we'll do what we shouldn't do to get it."

Date: 2005-09-28 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agentmaly.livejournal.com
You know, helping to fix poverty would be nice. Somehow I get the idea no one's ever thought of that, though, or at least not the people who are in power. I mean, considering all the money floating around, they have the means, but.. no.

Date: 2005-09-28 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Word.

What's more dangerous to a six-year-old - being manourished and uneducated or getting a looksie of boobies and genetalias?

I know where my vote is.

Date: 2005-09-28 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meeta.livejournal.com
This is so ridiculous it's ALMOST not funny.

Date: 2005-09-28 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It has a funny side, but yeah, also has a deeply unfunny side in its ramafications.

Heh, cion.

Date: 2005-09-28 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highwindpav.livejournal.com
::reads article::

Actually, it's nice to know that a good chunk of the FBI thinks this is a joke...because really, it is. I'm not all into porn, and I wouldn't shed a tear if it all went up in a poof of smoke, but really. It's not like kids haven't hidden naughty magazines (and lingerie catalogues) under their beds since the dawn of naughty magazines (and lingerie catalogues).

Now if their little task force was going after something, oh, I dunno, illegal, then that's cool. Kinda looks like they might have trouble finding agents willing to take on the task of finding and prosecuting porn that falls clearly under the illegal status, though...

Date: 2005-09-28 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Hey, I'm all for going after illegal stuff - well, in most cases, governments do sometimes invent dangerous laws. Hello, Nazi regime. But when we're talking about stuff that the FBI itself admits would probably be protected by that percious First Amendment - I say those resources are better used elsewhere. Crack some pedophile networks or something.

Obviously, am not very fond of porn that degrades women, but hey, large portions of US media degrades women and I'd so those affect the precious children more.

Mutter, mutter.

Date: 2005-09-28 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highwindpav.livejournal.com
I completely agree...and you're absolutely right, regular US media is completely screwed up and is quite harmful to children.

Date: 2005-09-28 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maureenlycaon.livejournal.com
Consider me tagged.

It will be interesting to see whether the FBI can genuinely do anything about porn that is legal. Of course, one possibility is that it'll just look for infractions of other laws -- any other laws -- to harass pornographers with.

The anti-porn people have never been able to come up with a scientifically valid study that shows porn does harm to its users, but that will never stop them from starting their witch hunts. As for exploitation of sex workers, surely the best way to handle this is the way workers in all jobs handle exploitation -- unionizing!

I can't wait to take over the world. When I do it, I'm going to shove my morality and preferences down these bastards' throats the way they have ours for the past millenium. For a start, I'm going to force every fundamentalist Christian church at gunpoint to allow Satanists to attend their every meeting and even speak, to "teach the controversy".

Date: 2005-09-28 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Why aren't they doing this shit to Halliburton or something? Oh wait, I forgot, they're the moral good and pals with Brain of Shrub.

I hope they realise the owner of precious Fox News also is one of the biggest owners in porn. Won't it be fun to go after them...

Besides, they haven't got a rat's chance in the cat house. Porn is as old as humanity's creative side and if the Dark Ages couldn't kill it, it is here to stay.

Date: 2005-09-28 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chunkylimes.livejournal.com
Of course, porn is way more important than the billions of taxpayer dollars gone missing in Iraq, or the prisoner abuse scandal, or Rovegate, or getting the soldiers some goddamn armour, or paying off the deficit.

Wait, sorry, that was Earth logic. Carry on.

Date: 2005-09-28 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unendingreverie.livejournal.com
I hope my screwed-up country doesn't outlaw smut fics... what would we do without Grissom/Sara smut? Not that I'm legal to read that stuff anyway, but stilll... ugh.

Date: 2005-09-28 11:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] melliyna.livejournal.com
*tags self*

I mean it's not as though the world has more important things to worry about. Like you, know poverty, terrorism, war, the degradation of the environment, child slavery...

But wait; that would be logical. Instead we shall go after consenting adults having sex and sex education because everyone knows if no one talks about sex then everyone will wait till they are married /sarcasm

Date: 2005-09-28 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erhothwen.livejournal.com
I'm quite tired of 'here' right now. Albeit, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else (as long as it is most definitely NOT in Bumbleburbs, Texas like right now)---perhaps San Francisco, but at the moment, I can't wait to get out of this country for a bit. *counts the months down to Europe*

Date: 2005-09-29 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] furrybanana.livejournal.com
I really don't know what to say. Everyone else has already said really profound and interesting stuff that anything I try and say will sound superficial. It's as if the world's politicians feel responsible for their country's moral wellbeing. wtf?!

Also, mind if I nick that meme? It looks really fun.

Date: 2005-09-29 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_tallian_/
I love the icon.

And that is the only original thing I have to say today.

Date: 2005-09-29 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-s-guy.livejournal.com
What kind of missiles would you fire at porn?

Very, very phallic ones.

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