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Date: 2006-02-04 07:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-04 07:25 pm (UTC)Madness.
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Date: 2006-02-04 08:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-04 09:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-04 10:06 pm (UTC)I really understand that they're upset, never thought it would have such consequences
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Date: 2006-02-04 07:22 pm (UTC)And the pope can kiss my lily-white arse. Religion isn't exempt from being mocked, insulted, or challenged. Welcome to the 21st century.
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Date: 2006-02-04 07:26 pm (UTC)Sigh. What a mess.
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Date: 2006-02-04 07:22 pm (UTC)Goddamned savages.
(I need to make an icon for being outraged and angry . . .)
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Date: 2006-02-04 07:27 pm (UTC)Fuck.
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Date: 2006-02-04 07:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-04 07:37 pm (UTC)And what is the point of burning down the embassies - shouldn't they be finding - I don't know - newspaper outlets or companies related to the papers that published the cartoons? (Not saying it's right, just that it's more logical...or as close to pseudo-logical as something so fucking crazy could ever get.)
This is just going to keep getting nastier, isn't it?
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Date: 2006-02-04 07:55 pm (UTC)So far, the UAE has reacted by banning Danish goods, so I'm just deprived of Lurpak. Nevertheless: it's upsetting and crazy-making, because I hate people being stupid and illogical. I'm extremely upset by the violence, but I'm also very annoyed at the dumb fuck who drew the cartoon in the first place. Nice work, genius -- print a cartoon that you know is racist, inflammitory, and incredibly offensive to a minority that is currently feeling incredibly threatened by the Western world and balances on a political knife-edge at the best of times. Good going. I hope they terminated your stupid ass.
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Date: 2006-02-04 08:16 pm (UTC)The world at large needs...crazy pills. I don't even know who exactly to call insane anymore because it seems to me that everyone's just gone bonkers.
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Date: 2006-02-04 08:35 pm (UTC)I have to agree with this bit in the blurb: However, several European papers reprinted the cartoons, citing free speech.
I get that it involved using an image of the prophet, Muhammed, and that's a no-no in Islam, but it's not like the Danish government hung a poster of that image on the embassy's front lawn.
As much as I think America is wacky (mostly from a you-elected-George-Dubya-for-a-second-term standpoint) if they were to burn down an embassy everytime one of the anti-American countries burned the American flag (I believe it's illegal to do so in the States) then they'd be toasting marshmallows 24/7.
Anyhow, I'm glad no one was hurt in this, uh, incident.
I hate organised religion with every cell in my body.
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Date: 2006-02-05 12:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-05 12:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-04 08:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-04 08:48 pm (UTC)Geez. When I see a cartoon that mocks my beliefs or makes ridiculous statements about people who believe what I do, I mock it right back. But maybe that's just me, being silly in my belief that a cartoon is a really fucking stupid thing to burn a foreign embassy for. (Or did these particular people already have it in mind to burn down something, and this cartoon just gave them an excuse?)
Glad no one has (at least reportedly) been hurt, at least...
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Date: 2006-02-04 10:42 pm (UTC)"a cartoon" -- having looked closer at some of the news articles, I'm sure many of the people involved aren't thinking of the cartoon so much as that their prophet was drawn, and apparently not in a very nice way, either, and that's sacriligious and disrespectful to them. Still... I don't think it's asking too much not to burn down an embassy because of it...
(Or did these particular people already have it in mind to burn down something, and this cartoon just gave them an excuse?)
I'll clarify here that I'm referring to these people who would do something like this (regardless of religion), and not Muslims in general, of course.
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Date: 2006-02-04 08:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-04 09:10 pm (UTC)What has the world come to...
*sigh*
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Date: 2006-02-04 09:17 pm (UTC)You moved me to make a post on it.
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Date: 2006-02-04 09:35 pm (UTC)Why didn't this happen every time someone wanted to make fun of Christianity? They've been doing that for -ages- and no one ever did anything about it!
Now we have this shit going around. Remember Hellfire's racist post about Islam? People like this are the reason why people think like that.
Bloody idiots, all of them.
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Date: 2006-02-04 09:49 pm (UTC)What really gets to me is the hypocracy of it all...for many middle-eastern publications have published quite readily some very disturbing anti-semitic imagery, which is offensive to those of the jewish faith. Why is one ok to print one and not the other...
Sigh*
*goes back to reading novel and escapes into fanfiction as well*
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Date: 2006-02-04 10:15 pm (UTC)I’m sorry that a few people’s productions and distributions represent all of Denmark and Norway to the Syrians, and I’m sorry that the radical protesters are going to represent the entire country of Syria to the rest of the world.
I can’t get a hold of my friend in Damascus to ask her about it (and make sure she’s safe). :(
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Date: 2006-02-04 10:47 pm (UTC)I, uh, understand why Muslims might get mad about something decidedly anti-Muslim being published...but, erm, burning down embassies is a bit extreme on the reaction scale.
I mean, I get ticked when people go off on how looney my religion is and characterize us as abortion-clinic-bombing gay-killing insane people (this includes me getting mad at the loons that make everyone think my religion is loonier than it is), but...no, haven't gone and burnt down an embassy over it. Much more understandable and at least not make-yourself-look-like-crazies to yell about it and make hurt feelings known without decending into such violence.
I wonder how many people are saying, "You, out of my country!" for pissing off large quantities of people and how many are saying, "You, out of my religion!" for going absolutely insane over an insult?
But then, I haven't seen the cartoon so I don't know how insulting it really is...or the intentions of the person who drew it and the people who published it.
It's really sad though...the vicious circle is in place now, and when is it going to stop feeding on itself?
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Date: 2006-02-04 10:54 pm (UTC)The world is going to hell in a handbasket... I swear.
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Date: 2006-02-04 11:28 pm (UTC)Damn. The world's brain seems to be hardwired backwards.
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Date: 2006-02-04 11:33 pm (UTC)Less tragic and a tiny bit funny, from the French news:
Palestian fundies kidnapped a bunch of people they thought were European. Then they realized they were in fact Palestinians and had to release them.
Last night, the French news were showing fanatics burning a French flag. The commentaor was making fun of them as they had in fact mistaken a Dutch flag for a French one.
This last incident makes me think French are good at camouflage: French fries are from Belgium, the flag is in fact Dutch...
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Date: 2006-02-04 11:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-05 02:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-04 11:35 pm (UTC)But anyway - it's gone completely mad. The editor of Jyllandsposten has apparently apologized for it, so what more do they want?
I do get that religion can cause people to do wacky things, but how many of the protesters/mob have actually seen the fucking drawings? And how many of them are relying on second hand messages?
I dunno - you kind of get used to everything being mockable and then this comes along, showing that everybody does not share the same kind of humour.
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Date: 2006-02-05 12:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-05 12:46 am (UTC)*crawls into a hole to wait it out*
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Date: 2006-02-05 01:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-05 03:05 am (UTC)Dudes. Muslim extremists--calm the hell down. Cartoonists--...it's your prerogative to print stuff under the free speech thing, but you don't have to abuse it, yeah? You love it okay go.
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Date: 2006-02-05 04:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-05 07:15 am (UTC)Muslims: OMG WE KEEL YOU AND BURN SHIT!!!!!!!!!111
Rest of the world: Eh, not exactly helping your case there, guys.