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Remember me mentioning babydoll's letter to Carol Mendelsohn in my pervious LJ entry?

She DID send me it, to my great surprise - and then she cut short my debate about whether or not to share by making it public herself. She posted it to YTDAW, you can find it here. It's 12 pages. It's like Christmas come early. It's like a personal giftwrapped amusement-package to me from the Universe. Thank you, Universe.

You don't even need to know CSI to enjoy this, my friends.

Some excerpts:
To all CSI fans I’m best known as babydoll, and I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit surprised if you’ve already heard of me. (...)

“I can’t see Catherine kissing just anyone, it has to be the right guy.” Well when I read this quote I laughed! Please! Over the years Cath has kissed many different guys, none of which appear to be the “right guy” and still you’re getting it wrong! You can’t honestly believe that Warrick of all people is the “right guy” for Miss Catherine Willows? Now I’m not saying that Warrick’s not a great guy and a cool character, not at all! I’m just saying he’s nowhere near the top of my list of people I would out my idol with on the show! Near the bottom in fact! (...)

It was so forced that you made it funny! It made me realise how wrong the pair really were for each other, if you have to force the chemistry that hard to make it work! When their faces were centimetres away, all I could think was how much more sense it would make had Nick been there instead. Because with them, I think the chemistry just flows! “But then watching that moment when they fell into each other’s arms, - oh, my God! I couldn’t believe it!” OK I was actually literally rolling on the floor when I read this one for the first time! I couldn’t believe how stupid that sounded! I couldn’t actually stop laughing because you couldn’t be more wrong!(...)

Down the Drain, some forced desperate attempt to put SOMETHING there, and I guess in Too Tough to Die there’s a slight amount of flirting, and in A Little Murder there’s contact, but not sexual at all! So what the hell was all the rest?! FRIENDSHIP DAMNIT! FRIENDSHIP! If you can’t see that then you must be blind from head to toe! I mean for crying out loud! In every single occasion, it’s one of them, looking out for the other! What does that tell you? I mean if you got a steamy relationship from THAT then there must be something wrong with you! You get friends from people looking out for each other, good friends, very good friends in fact! Sometimes even siblings. And for siblings to get together would just be plain gross! (I really couldn’t think of a more sophisticated way of putting that!) But it’s wrong! Call me old-fashioned, but I’m a Christian and I have my own standards, when I see a gay couple kiss, I cringe, I feel really wrong all over, it’s the same at the thought of brother and sister kissing, and it’s that feeling I get at the thought of Cath and Warrick getting intimate! You can’t honestly believe that these people are a match-made in heaven! No way! That’s wrong... it’s horrible… it’s flaming disgusting! I really can’t believe you’re actually considering going ahead with it! As a matter of honesty! It’s… it’s an abomination for starters! I’m telling you as the most loyal of all fans…. Die-hard fan as you seem to want to call me… don’t ruin the most loved crime show of all time by getting 2 people together, that no-one wants to be together!(...)

OK just to sum up. I was gonna make this longer, but all the fans seemed to have summed it up pretty well for me! Scrap the Cath/Warrick thing, at least for this season, which I know you have done, coz I know all about Grave Danger, and how it’s all Grissom this Nick that! Which I love Nick, and I’ve seen the roughcuts, and extended footage, and I’m overwhelmed. You’ve done a fantastic job and us fans could not ask for a better finale in our lives! We really couldn’t, and I want to thank the CSI crew on behalf of all of us fans for doing such a fantastic Tarantino production and everything! Also… scrap Miami and New York, the ratings have dropped considerably since they came out, and no-one I know likes them. They really arte both very crap spin-off which no dedicated fan would even attempt to watch, because the original, was, is and will always be the best by far! Remember the good ol’ days, when the CSIs were a team, 1 big relatively happy family, with only a few cares in the world, Grissom’s team, and they always will be, promote my fave character or not, they’re all Grissom’s night shift team!(...)

Read. Boggle. Marvel. Truly, there are no words to do it true justice. There are only exclamation marks.

And of course the C/W smut I intend to write just for her.

Date: 2005-05-18 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belegcuthalion.livejournal.com
You're so eeeevol, baby.

Date: 2005-05-18 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
*poses with tail and horns*

You love me for it, darling.

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Date: 2005-05-18 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adoraheatherly.livejournal.com
Some people really need to get a life. Damn.

Date: 2005-05-18 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
And lose some exclamation marks.

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Date: 2005-05-18 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] basilea.livejournal.com
OMG. and... OMG. *Is too shocked to laugh yet* So, CSI fans must know this girl cause she's like a celebrity in the fandom or something? well, with that attitude in her posts she surely will be remembered.

I so love all that "Scrap this and that cause no one cares". She really is the center of the Universe isn't she? *shock is gone so I'm now ROFL* And that conclussion she arrived to... that C/W is wrong cause she's a Christian and C/W is like gay people kissing cause they're like siblings... *speechless*

Thank you, thank you, thank you! for spreading the letter. Just the kind of fun I needed!

Date: 2005-05-18 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] basilea.livejournal.com
Read the whole thing now (well, almost cause honestly, it's 12 pages long!) and if I was Carol Mendelsohn I'd ask CBS to rise my salary for having to deal with stuff like this.

She quotes five friends and claims the world has spoken! Can you imagine her in UN? OMGoodness.

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That'd be a small world

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Re: That'd be a small world

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Date: 2005-05-18 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briasoleil.livejournal.com
Ohmigod! There are no words. None. I mean, none. I can point but I cannot mock. Because my mind is so blown away by the sheer stupidity of the letter that it can't even process actual vocabulary. Are there words to convey the utter stupidity of this letter and this girl? I don't think so.

And the audacity with which she speaks! I'm a 14-year-old Christian fan of CSI and I know more than you... Petulant would be one way to describe her.

Oh, and I'm currently reading Eats, Shoots and Ladders and have just finished the exclamation part. Ha!

Oy, the brain hurts. But obviously not enough, because I want to read the whole letter. Could you e it to me at ms_anais at yahoo dot com? I could go to the forum, but if it's that long, I'll be there all day. Bitte? Grazie!

Date: 2005-05-18 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilstorm.livejournal.com
Eats, Shoots and Leaves, I think you mean. XD

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Date: 2005-05-18 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilstorm.livejournal.com
The...attitude is truly stunning, but I'm reserving judgement on the actual content because I know sod-all about CSI. I mean, just to be fair.

But man, that is one hell of a weird letter.

Date: 2005-05-18 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Well, I dodn't think you'll be utterly shocked when I tell you she's not exactly on planet Earth when it comes to the show either. Granted, I am biased, but still.

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Date: 2005-05-18 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] b2wm.livejournal.com
Now, I wouldn't know CSI characters if they showed up in my living room, but her logic is certainly not earth logic. People looking out for one another=friendship? Well, okay, that makes sense. But friendship precludes romantic interaction? Au Contrare. Or so says a Eowyn/Faramir, Sam/Sybil, and John/Abby shipper. (Porn? What porn?)

Now, I'm no Christian, but can someone explain to me what slash has to do with incest? I can understand not liking either because of one's values systems, and I can understand the reasoning for frowning upon incest from a biological standpoint, but they've got shit-diddly to do with one another, so why bring slash up? Furthermore, although they may act as if they are related, they aren't, so why bring incest up?

And the obvious but unsupported Nick/Catherine shipping is just worth a further "bwuh?"

In conclusion, I see no reason within her article to support or stop either C/W or C/N, so, LET THE THREESOME BEGIN!

Date: 2005-05-18 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
ORGY!

She's brought up the Christian-gay wrong-incest wrong-Cath&War wrong link before. I've stared at it for hours, trying to see the logic. I think I lost braincells in the process. Maybe that'll give me my logic...

Date: 2005-05-18 08:27 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] binx-349.livejournal.com
I think I'm officially scared of her... that, is weird. *lmao*

12 pages!? Woah. Someone has a lot of time on their hands I see. :P

Date: 2005-05-18 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Well, she did call herself the Ultimate CSI Fan. I guess I missed the crowning ceremony.

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Date: 2005-05-18 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roo2.livejournal.com
I find it especially amusing that she says things like "If you can't see the lack of chemistry here you must be blind!" and yet she falls all over herself pushing the Sara/Grissom pairing, which DH and I both think shows no chemistry at all. Chemistry is often in the eye of the beholder. Also, the fanspeak is annoying and, well, just plain stupid. I watch the show but have no clue who/what "spork" refers to.

And as for me, I'm anti-Cath/Warrick simply because I think that in the context of this show an office romance would screw up the cast chemistry. I really don't care about what any of them do outside of work, at least not enough for it to be a major plot point. I like Grissom referring to his roach-racing, that sort of thing, but I prefer not to see more than that. I watch the show because I enjoy the science, which has been watered down way too much lately. Office romance would give them another excuse to cut back on good plots and science in favor of cheesy melodrama.

Besides, they seriously wasted Nick Lea. They shoulda let him and Catherine stay together. Think of the crossover potential when she found out she was dating an assassin/spy/fugitive/Russian agent :-)

Date: 2005-05-18 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
*shrugs* It's not really the choice of pairings that amuse me in this case, but more how she goes about trying to prove them and disprove others.

People will like what they like, but how they show their tastes, that I feel free to point and mock when stupid.

Eh, Nick Lea never did much for me, on CSI or X-Files.

Date: 2005-05-18 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autobadgirl.livejournal.com
Oh I just love how she equates/conflates incest with homosexuality. Nice.

Except not. No that's just small minded and stupid and bigoted of her.

The stupid burns...it burrrrrrns.

Date: 2005-05-18 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
She's a good Christian girl, dontcha know? *eyeroll*

It burns into the next world, it does.

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Date: 2005-05-18 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] me2you.livejournal.com
I would very much appreciate her not speaking on behalf of me... in fact, I almost feel the need to write to Ms Mendelsohn myself to reassure her that we're not all complete morons, and some of us do have brains (small ones, yes, but brains nonetheless :P).

"If you can’t see that then you must be blind from head to toe!... I mean if you got a steamy relationship from THAT then there must be something wrong with you!

Insult the woman, that'll help o_O

Though I really shouldn't be surprised, this is coming from the same girl who's YTDAW profile says she's from "Britian."

I need a WTF? icon.

(and just as a side note, I wan't aware that it was possible to be blind in your toes :P)

Date: 2005-05-18 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I had that very same urge. "Not all CSI fans are insane! Please don't end the show two years early while taking a vacation to regain sanity!"

I left my WTF icon somewhere. Arg.

Apparenly, babydoll's toes do amazing things.

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Date: 2005-05-18 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perhatikan.livejournal.com
*note to self: do not read this when brain is still in full research mode* Ouch. My head hurts big time now. Shouldn't read things like this when I'm having a break. Ouch.

Just one question: what planet does she come from?

Date: 2005-05-18 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
"Britian", apparently.

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Date: 2005-05-18 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawning-star.livejournal.com
I needed a laugh first thing this morning.

Date: 2005-05-18 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
The Universe offered one.

What is that icon?

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Date: 2005-05-18 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
So, do I get this right? There is actually a teenage CSI fangirl somewhere out there who did send this letter to the producers of the show?

Bloody shit, and I've always thought only Ringers were that insane...

Date: 2005-05-18 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Well, she hasn't yet, but she's planning to send it to one of the executive producers, yeah.

Insanity comes in all fandoms, it seems.

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Date: 2005-05-18 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moyawyvern.livejournal.com
**sits and waits for head to stop boggling**

I don't quite know what to make of this. The excessive use of exclamation points, net speak, the fact that she can't seem to be able to spell out Catherine's whole name. Personally, if I were writing a letter to a television executive, I would try to write a letter that sounded professional and logical, and not like something I threw together while I was IMing. And what precisely are her credentials that give her the right to speak for everybody? I certainly didn't give her my vote.

I am saving this letter for my friends to read later so that they can have a laugh. They loved the C/N, or more precisely, M/G site you linked to.

Must go now and hope my mind stops boggling before I have to be at work.

Date: 2005-05-18 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Truly, a joy such as this should be shared. Again and again and again.

Not to mention maybe not *insulting* the person you've writing to.

Yeah, that site is almost more mindboggling than this one. Fandom has much gold, if only one does a little digging.

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Date: 2005-05-18 09:53 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] velocityofsound.livejournal.com
Oh, happy day! What treasures you provide, Cam. Perhaps I should compose a letter for that thread illustrating the obvious and ignored potential of a Warrick/Gil BDSM based relationship. I'm sure with my reputation in the fandom, TPTB will quickly change course and devote several episodes to Gil/Warrick spanking time. I'll make them see the light...oh yes.

Date: 2005-05-18 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Of course, given how you are the Spanking Lady of the World and speak for everyone. They just don't know they agree with you yet, but they will, oh yes.

Spank us all to submission!

Date: 2005-05-18 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitness.livejournal.com
Mind. Boggling. !!!

I really have nothing contructive to say except to give a big ol' WTF mixed with a whole lot of mildly hysterical laughter. Wow. Just wow.

Date: 2005-05-18 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briasoleil.livejournal.com
I love your icon. Even if I'm all anti-TWW-girl, I still have some good memories of the show. Adorable Josh among many of the good memories.

And I can remember him saying that line.

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Date: 2005-05-18 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chem-nerd.livejournal.com
Head, meet desk. Desk, head; head, desk. *headdesk* She's well and truly off her rocker. I actually see more of the sibling dynamic between Cath and Nick, personally. But beyond that, the writers of the show are canon, and as such they cannot be wrong. Everything they put into the show is canon and by definition right, whether she likes it or not. And netspeak should never, ever, leave the 'net. Please, Miss Cam, write her a very, very special piece of C/W smut... I think she needs it.

And I thought I was CSI-obsessed...

Date: 2005-05-18 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh yes. A special one just for her, have no fear.

I think we'll have to find a new word beyond obsessed for her. Good grief.

Date: 2005-05-18 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hadria.livejournal.com
Oh Holy God on a pogo stick. It's crazier than I expected.

This little piece of fanwank has made my life.

Oh wow.

And she's laminating it so CM "won't be able to throw it away". If I was Carol, I'd tape this to the walls of the writing room and show it to Billy Petersen every time he got bored of playing Grissom. Because why would anyone want to quit their job if they got to read this gem every day and laugh at it?

Date: 2005-05-18 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Dude, I'd work for free for this kind of entertainment.

Truly, whenever I now feel down, I just read to reread this letter and I'll be laughing deeply on the inside for the rest of the day. Insanity! Exclamations! Gay bashing! Weird incest claims! Insults!

It's epic, it is.

Date: 2005-05-18 03:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] avendya.livejournal.com
Oh. My. God. This can't be real.

I haven't even watched a single episode of CSI and my mind is already boggling.

Date: 2005-05-18 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh, it's real. This chick wanders all over a messageboard I post at and if she's a troll, she's a very longworking one.

Date: 2005-05-18 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fixing.livejournal.com
... she's actually worse than ME when i was at the height of my single-minded c/g obsession. i can just picture carol mendelshon laughing uproariously as she reads this. priceless.

Date: 2005-05-18 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Maybe she can do a deathmatch against that insane girl who e-mailed you. I'd pay to see that.

Date: 2005-05-18 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meeta.livejournal.com
OH MY GOSH!
Thank you for that, truly. That was the most entertaining thing I've read in a long time.
She's a Christian, and she cringes at gay people... I didn't know that these two statements should have a comma between them! EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO AND DIE!
...OF LAUGHTER!

Date: 2005-05-18 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
*makes you a comfortable grave*

"Here lay Meeta, died from babydoll on the Intenert May 2005. We laugh with her still."

Date: 2005-05-18 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ericasj.livejournal.com
Wow.

*points up to the icon*

Had a really good laugh at this. Is she the girl that had argued with you about the C/N and C/W issue? Poor Carol. What did she do to deserve this?

Date: 2005-05-18 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yep. She's a longtime feature on this LJ by now.

I guess Carol's crime was bringing in the C/W, which we all know is like incest and wrong. Or something.

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