Unpopular Opinions of Various Kinds

[misscam]

Cam's Ten Unpopular Fannish Opinions
(On CSI and Doctor Who)

CSI
1. You don't have to hate Catherine just because you love Sara, or vice versa. It is entirely possible to like both, and find neither the BEST THING EVER.
2. I don't actually like Alter Boys that much.
3. I don't think CSI will become unwatchable the moment William Petersen is no longer in it.
4. Gil Grissom lookswise doesn't no anything for me. His brain, however, does.
5. Sara isn't the only right one for Grissom. I believe more than one person can be right for you, and I don't think Sara is a perfect fit. That doesn't mean he can't genuinely love or grow to love her.
6. A ship doesn't need a bloody cutesy name. Grillows, Sandle, SoNic, Gofia? Gag me with a spoon.
7. Nick isn't hot. Nick is blah.
8. Not delivering GSR will not be a betrayal against the characters or the show itself.
9. CM isn't the devil.
10. I don't think there is some big revelation or explanation that will suddenly explain Grissom. Sometimes, we just are what we are, made so by a million little influences.

Doctor Who (mostly New Series)
1. The Doctor ain't asexual. (Hey, it is an opinion that sends many fanboys into spin!)
2. Jack isn't walking sex. I'm sorry, he doesn't do much for me.
3. I don't actually find Eight that hot. Even if he snogs fairly enthusiastically.
4. The OT3 of Jack/Rose/Doctor wouldn't be a nice, even threeway romance. It would come with troubles and uneven power dynamics and potentially be a right mess. (Go AWAY, plotbunnies!)
5. I don't think "The Long Game" is pants. I actually kind of like it, Editor and Adam and bondage and all.
6. I don't get the Four!scarf fetish. The only thing the scarf does is remind me spring is slow and winter cold.
7. I don't get the Ten!glasses fetish. Heck, I'd do Tennant, but the glasses don't increase or descrease my willingness to do him.
8. The Doctor taking up arms isn't omg!wrong. Sure, I love the fact that the Doctor doesn't carry guns and hates them, but he's never been afraid to use his weapons - time, words and other people. He is not a pacifist.
9. I think both Harriet and the Doctor had good points in TCI and find myself unable to side with either. Murder and defence sometimes walk in the same grey zone.
10. One is attractive in a grumpy, bitchin' kind of way. I know, I know. Sick.

Sioux president wants clinic that preforms abortion on the reservation after South Dakota banned the procedure

I like this woman. I do not like Bill Napoli and his "simple rape" shouldn't get the option of abortion ideas. (RAGE! A rape is a rape, utter dickweed. That is what is to it, now shut up.) I therefore give a hearty "kick his ass!". (And no, not because I want women to have abortions, but because I want women to have the bloody choice themselves. Bill Napoli and his notions of rape can stay the sod away from my uterus and anyone else's.) No doubt her decision will be hugely unpopular with certain rabid, millitant parts of the pro-life crowd.

If you wish to support this move, some details on how to have been posted here

And for the idiot of the day, I give you - "I good at English! Spellcheck tells me so, after I've added *every bloody misspelled word* to it!"

In other news:
Danish beer factory workers peeved over no beer served at work
Six-year-old girl in India charged as 'criminal'
ETA declares permanent ceasefire
Clue discovered as to why bird flu hasn't yet jumped from human to human
Death in the US raises concern over police methods
Walker treks across the US to lose weight
Amazon accused of anti-abortion bias
South Park gets even

Comments

[colorstoobright.livejournal.com]

A ship doesn't need a bloody cutesy name. Grillows, Sandle, SoNic, Gofia? Gag me with a spoon.
Can we add that rule to EVERY FANDOM IN THIS UNIVERSE?

[roguem.livejournal.com]

Agreed.

[csi-sara-sidle.livejournal.com]

7. Nick isn't hot. Nick is blah.

THANK YOU.

[lucius-admirer.livejournal.com]

7. Nick isn't hot. Nick is blah.

amen

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

Your unpopular Doctor Who opinions can't be that unpopular, seeing as I agree entirely with half of them, and am somewhat agreeable to several more.

(Though I am disagreeing with 6. Though that may have something to do with the fact that I, personally, own more than 50 scarves)

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I have many nice scarves myself. They are nice and warm, but they always fill me with memories of waiting for teh bus at 7 a.m in -15. Joy.

[oddlyfamiliar.livejournal.com]

I agree with most of the CSI things you listed. Unfortunately, I'm finding the majority of the show to be 'blah' just recently, instead of it just being Nick...

Six-year-old girl in India charged as 'criminal'

Yeah. Gotta be careful of those damn six year olds. I can see why the police are so afraid that she'll attack them again...

/sarcasm

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I find CSI a bit blah recently myself. Show has been on a while, so it's not that odd that the strain begins to show. It just doesn't engage as much.

Now, now. Don't underestimate the power of the six-year-old wail...

[belegcuthalion.livejournal.com]

Members of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, a pro-abortion group, raised the issue with Amazon. Rev Jeff Briere, said he continued to believe that the abortion books suggested by an Amazon search "seem to be pro-life in orientation"

Oh, how shocking! You know, I'm decidedly against the total banishment of abortion - should woman in trouble start to jump from haybarns again? - but the fact that a Reverend finds the simple fact that someone is "pro-life" shocking is something I find shocking. I'm really sorry.

[harmonyfb.livejournal.com]

No, no, you misunderstand. He finds it shocking that a search for books on the topic gets titles clustered up to one end of the political spectrum.

[cursed-albion.livejournal.com]

Nick isn't hot. Nick is blah.
Thank you!

I don't think "The Long Game" is pants. I actually kind of like it, Editor and Adam and bondage and all.
I like the long game, well I like it apart from Adam he's just pants.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I like Adam cos he turns out to be a little pants and selfish, really. Makes for a nice contrast.

Unpopular Opinions

[harmonyfb.livejournal.com]

Actually, I agree with many. Nope, the Doctor isn't asexual, though I'm pretty much on the unpopular end of 'He's only slept with Romana, post-regeneration, and possibly Rose, because she looks exactly like Romana'.

You don't think Jack is walking sex? Good, more for me! Well, that's ok, we can disagree. ;)

The OT3 of Jack/Rose/Doctor wouldn't be a nice, even threeway romance. It would come with troubles and uneven power dynamics and potentially be a right mess.

::licks lips:: Yes, it would be. Rowr.

I don't think "The Long Game" is pants. I actually kind of like it, Editor and Adam and bondage and all.

I liked "The Long Game", actually. I loved the little snarky, "He's your boyfriend." "Not anymore." And Simon Pegg! Woot! I'm just hoping Adam shows up in a future ep, having caused havoc with that brain implant. :)

The Doctor taking up arms isn't omg!wrong.

Hmm. I like that the Doctor isn't comfortable taking up arms. He'll do it, in a pinch, but he'd really rather find another way (especially if he's my doctor, number 5). :)

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Is angsty, slightly dysfunctional OT3 turning you on a little? :P

Yeah, Doctor is decidedly not gung-ho gun happy, but I've seen so many people rant about OOC if he as much as picks up a weapon, be it gun or sword.

[adoraheatherly.livejournal.com]

My favorite part:

You use to many people who people who are unable to make themselves understood, they canot speak English cohearntly nor plainly so why do you waste my time telling me to call them.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Icon!

And so fitting, too.

[nymeria.livejournal.com]

6. A ship doesn't need a bloody cutesy name. Grillows, Sandle, SoNic, Gofia? Gag me with a spoon.

Or a confusing one. It took me ages to work out Snarry = Snape/Harry, and then when poking around Firefly, I got even more confused when I saw someone say they shipped 'CSI'. I found out eventually that in the Firefly fandom, CSI (Simon/River) stands for Crazy Space Incest. x_x

[misscam.livejournal.com]

... *blinks*

Sounds like the logic of HP ship names, like "Harmony" or "Pumpkin Pie" or whatever. Shipping shouldn't involve learning a whole new language, dammit.

[ladyiapetus]

7. Nick isn't hot. Nick is blah.

Especially with a mustache.

[wendymr.livejournal.com]

Well, I agree with those who've said your DW opinions aren't that unpopular! Sorry, you'll just have to try harder to come up with things that people will actually argue with you over. ;)

1. The Doctor ain't asexual.

And no argument whatsoever there. Heck, even the producer and scriptwriters agree with you, as do many of the novelists. And that started before Nine came along.

2. Jack isn't walking sex. I'm sorry, he doesn't do much for me.

Well, admittedly I prefer Nine to Jack; I can't comment regarding Ten because I'd like to see them together first. But we all have different tastes in who or what we find attractive - personally, I can't see what's so great about the kind of movie stars or other famous so-called hunks that lots of people swoon over. ;) This isn't an unpopular opinion so much as a variant in taste.

3. I don't actually find Eight that hot. Even if he snogs fairly enthusiastically.

Sure, some people find him 'hot', but I didn't think that was a universal perception.

4. The OT3 of Jack/Rose/Doctor wouldn't be a nice, even threeway romance. It would come with troubles and uneven power dynamics and potentially be a right mess. (Go AWAY, plotbunnies!)

*summons back the plotbunnies* Yeah, it would be very complicated, and the power dynamics very difficult to iron out - but then, even the OTP of Doctor and Rose would come with similar very messy, uneven power dynamics. How could it possibly be a relationship of equals?

5. I don't think "The Long Game" is pants. I actually kind of like it, Editor and Adam and bondage and all.

Well, I can't stand Adam, but The Long Game wasn't a bad ep. I prefer it to Boom Town. Some lovely character moments and lots of shots of Rose leaning over the Doctor's shoulder as he sits on that leather chair. ;) And more evidence that the Doctor's not infallible and sometimes he needs other people's help to get out of the messes he's landed up in.

6. I don't get the Four!scarf fetish. The only thing the scarf does is remind me spring is slow and winter cold.

lol - actually, the scarf just looks like it gets in the way. I don't remember my Four episodes all that well, but running for your life with that trailing behind you and getting caught on stuff? Riiiiight.

7. I don't get the Ten!glasses fetish. Heck, I'd do Tennant, but the glasses don't increase or descrease my willingness to do him.

YAY! Someone else who doesn't like the glasses! I couldn't understand why that scene got so much attention. I thought the glasses were horrible and made him look like (the uber-dorky, movie version of) Clark Kent on a very bad day. Hated them.

8. The Doctor taking up arms isn't omg!wrong. Sure, I love the fact that the Doctor doesn't carry guns and hates them, but he's never been afraid to use his weapons - time, words and other people. He is not a pacifist.

Absolutely. And that goes back through DW history. It's not just Nine - what he did in the Time War, using a missile to kill the Slitheen, being prepared to shoot the Dalek. People have always died in DW episodes, and many times he's been the cause of their deaths.

9. I think both Harriet and the Doctor had good points in TCI and find myself unable to side with either. Murder and defence sometimes walk in the same grey zone.

I agree. Having written a story which attempted to untangle the morality of that decision, I'm more than ever convinced that neither was right. Even if the decision to shoot the ship out of the sky was wrong, the Doctor was equally wrong to leap to judgement when it's not his judgement to make, and very wrong to set out coldly to destroy her career for it. I find myself asking: what does he want in place of Harriet Jones, whose ethics and standards he actually approves of much of the time? Another Thatcher? Bush? And what right does he have to attempt what is effectively a coup d'etat?

10. One is attractive in a grumpy, bitchin' kind of way. I know, I know. Sick.

No comment. ;) Never seen One other than in photos...

Nah. Not so unpopular. Verdict: must try harder. *grin*

[dark-aegis.livejournal.com]

*points at the above* What she said :) Though I do find myself liking the glasses...I don't know, something about them are just very nice. Then again, I just think DT is good looking no matter what he's wearing. Even if they are uber-dorky glasses.

[bloodanna.livejournal.com]

6. A ship doesn't need a bloody cutesy name. Grillows, Sandle, SoNic, Gofia? Gag me with a spoon.

Yeah! Right on! It just doesn't work with english names; see The Squishing Together of Names was started in Japanese fandoms -Digimon, I think was the first one- where it actually worked. Of course their fandoms actually need it because the names are up to 12 letters long, why we do it here where most names are 4 letters long I will never know.

Nick isn't hot. Nick is blah.

*Gasp* How dare you?! He's beautiful. All crinkly laugh lines and kind eyes. "Blah", indeed.

~

I am so tired of the Pro-live VS Pro-choice battles, people need to just pay attention to themselves. You don't agree with abortions then that's your choice, maybe talk to people and logically explain your views, but mostly leave them alone. It is their choice, mistake or otherwise.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

BLAH!

I'm sorry, but Nick is blah to me. Personality, looks, accent... blah.

[dreams-of-him.livejournal.com]

I would add another rule to your CSI list (this is so presumptuous):

10. THIS IS FICTION! Get over it. Like what you like, hate what you hate, but please do not have 10 cows when things don't go your way, or torment the rest of us with your angst. I had years of therapy to get over my own angst...I aspire to angst-less interactions during my leisure hours.

Re: reproductive rights. I don't often hear this espoused, but in my heart of hearts, I believe a nation cannot truly be pro-natal until and unless it is also pro-child. If every pro-life person I ever met was also going hammer and tongs to make sure every child brought into this word has a competent, loving, violence-free home/parents, I might be inclined to listen. This is so not the case in this country. It is our great shame that we do not treasure each new person in our midst for the gifts they will offer us one day.

For myself, I want to have a choice about my reproductive life. I want that for my sisters, too.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

All the "THE SHIP IS NOT HAPPENING MY LIFE IS OVER!" angst? Yeah, can get just a taaaaaad much.

Quite. It never ceases to amaze me that some of the people that so militantly proclaim themselves "pro-life" also favours execution of youths for crimes committed as minors, cut in social support and cut other welfare rights for children. It's like the moment they're out of the womb, they're not being fought for anymore.

If you're gonna take a title like "pro-life", I sure as heck would like to see some consistency and actual pro-life attitude at work, me.

[falena]

As these 30+ comments prove your opinions are not as unpopular as you might think. Nice try, though. ;)

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Hey, some disagreed! :P

[idreamedmusic.livejournal.com]

2. to 5. *gasp* Especially on 2. *is shocked* ;)

But ITA about about your last point. I'd actually feel cheated if they'd try to explain Grissom through that one moment in life that made him into who he is. He's too complex for that. Most people are. Granted, not most tv people, but it would be a huge disservice to the Bugman.

[hadria.livejournal.com]

Nick is so fug.

1,6,7,&10, yesssss. Others, noooooooo. ;)

[boz4pm.livejournal.com]

*wets herself over the letter*

I will allow you to be snitty over the scarf since you made no mention of the jelly babies. Jelly babies = love.

[megpie71.livejournal.com]

1. The Doctor ain't asexual. (Hey, it is an opinion that sends many fanboys into spin!)

I strongly agree. Let's face it, the original series were aimed at children, particularly around the ages of eight and nine. At that age, girls think boys are silly, and boys think girls are icky, and the kissy stuff isn't interesting. So the series focussed more on plot and adventure than on relationships. The issue of the Doctor's companions and their lives *outside* the boundaries of the TARDIS wasn't covered too much, so the issues of personal relationships *inside* the TARDIS weren't raised.

8. The Doctor taking up arms isn't omg!wrong. Sure, I love the fact that the Doctor doesn't carry guns and hates them, but he's never been afraid to use his weapons - time, words and other people. He is not a pacifist.

Okay, this one is slightly tricky. I'd agree that the Doctor isn't a pacifist. However, I'd also argue that in the earlier series he tends to see *any* type of violent action as an absolute last resort. He's changed in the new series, but then again, he's the last survior of a genocidal war which has wiped out his race, his culture, his people and his planet. This would be enough to change anyone.

Certainly his actions in "Dalek" argue that he's starting to become far more emotionally affected by events than he used to allow himself to be. Possibly it's the realisation that he no longer has any chance of redemption. The earlier Doctor was a renegade, but also a crusader. He attempted to show the Time Lords how interference could alter things for the better, avoid a lot of problems. I honestly think he believed that maybe in the long run, they'd come around to his point of view. Now there's no longer any chance of that. The Doctor used to be willing to die for his beliefs. Now he desperately needs something to live for, instead.

10. One is attractive in a grumpy, bitchin' kind of way. I know, I know. Sick.

*grin* Ah, the first Doctor was the one who set the scene. He gave us the context, he gave us the beginnings, and even though I haven't seen too many of the episodes, he will always have a special place in my heart.

[siraj.livejournal.com]

9. CM isn't the devil.

What's CM? I must have missed that one...


2. Jack isn't walking sex.

No, but he's still pretty damn cute.


Danish: *giggles* That's actually pretty funny!

India girl: Wow... the mind boggles at the stupid.

Police methods: ... This is news? I figured that out a long ways back!

Amazon: *snicker* Man, these people will find any excuse to complain...

[piecesofalice.livejournal.com]

I basically agreed with everyone of your CSI opinions. Which is probably why I keep my little noggin inside my LiveJournal and only poke it out to post occasionally popular pairing or gen fic.


That said: Gen in CSI fandom? Not the devil. In fact, I really do think as a fandom, it needs more.

[git-the-goddess.livejournal.com]

CSI:
So, which 'ship is called "Gag me with a spoon"?

Doctor Who:
1. Agreed.
2. *Shrugs*
3. Agreed.
4. Agreed. *feeds plotbunnies*
5. Mmmmm, bondage!Doctor...
6. But, all the possibilities!
7. Agreed.
8. Agreed.
9. Agreed.
10. You WHAT? Yes, you are right... you sicko.

[sparklechick268.livejournal.com]

I've seen quite a few bad spellers in my time, but this guy takes the cake! I haven't laughed this much in ages! The fact that he actually added all those words to the dictionary makes it even more hilarious.

[th-esaurus.livejournal.com]

2. Jack isn't walking sex. I'm sorry, he doesn't do much for me.

This is so true. I love Jack. He is fun and flirty and Jack. But he is not attractive.

3. I don't actually find Eight that hot. Even if he snogs fairly enthusiastically.

Also agree. I do think Eight is ADORABLE though. And he has a lovely voice : )

7. I don't get the Ten!glasses fetish. Heck, I'd do Tennant, but the glasses don't increase or descrease my willingness to do him.

Alas, here I must disagree. However, it's not so much a Ten!glasses fetish I have as a...glasses fetish in general. They just seem to boost the attractiveness of a guy, to me.