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Life. Blah. I shan't bore you with details, but BLAH I say. Blah!

First package of Who merchandise has arrived though, so yay. And customs didn't tax me after all, so thank you, state of Norway. Wee Ten is now mine, as well as the books (signed, not bad). Course, what I really want are the audio books, which are read by David Tennant, but not out till early July. BBC is such a mean tease.

Meanwhile, a question for you Brits - I have heard good things about Life on Mars, and it is very soon out on DVD - so should I fork over yet more money to the BBC and get it? Any other recs while at it?

And the answer to how far you can push the line in Supernatural fandom is... Not that far.

Doctor Who fandom - at least my corner of it - hasn't really had anything much in that vein, though there was a bit of a rapefic bruhahaha at GAFF. Humhum. I have noticed that my own lines have shifted a bit, though. Years ago I was all "RPF is wrooooong!", now I'm all "eh" and find it creepy at times, but mostly just whatever floats one's boat (or as I said to [livejournal.com profile] vaskalcorp today, "let he who is without kink throw the first stone"). Does fandom adapt you, I wonder?

So apparently Bush snubbed the Norwegian PM

*eyeroll* Always nice to be reminded how wee we really are. Of course, watch the US tell us we should increase oil output again next week. Then we're suddenly important. Hah. Bite me, Bush. I'll give you socialism germs.

And finally, for today's meme: In your fandom(s) of choice, what is the line you think most of the fandom would react badly to being crossed and why? Or has it already occured? I am curious.
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Date: 2006-05-02 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaskalcorp.livejournal.com
Discworld - A graphic description of Nanny Ogg/Cassanunda sex, complete with sound effects. Leave it at the fade to black line, please!

Date: 2006-05-02 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boz4pm.livejournal.com
RPF squicks me. I think Sue RPF I don't have a problem with (one of the only times Sues don't) since that's pure 'if I could meet them and have Teh Hawt Smex', which is fair enough and in many ways a darn sight more honest and easier to cope with than bampfing themselves into Rivendell so they can snog Legolas (or whatever).

It's the RPF stuff that involves 'interaction' between actors that gets me. Probably cos I've been in the business and know how freaked I'd be if that was done to me. I'd be pretty freaked by the Sue stuff too, but I would understand it on some level.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boz4pm.livejournal.com
Oh, and re. your meme: I think just about anything and everything has happened in LOTR, and not all in jest, sad to say. I could think of so many things that have 'crossed the line' - Nazgul porn and Legolas shagging orcs being top among them.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immoralilly.livejournal.com
No wai! Supernatural finally had RPS wank? I knew our time would come.

What exactly happened? (Sorry to ask, but web blocker doesn't like f_w, unsurprisingly.)

Date: 2006-05-02 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 20thcenturyvole.livejournal.com
Re: Life On Mars - Yes, yes, a thousand times yes, it's completely worth it. I downloaded the first episode out of curiousity and it proceeded to eat my life for a fortnight afterwards. It really is a wonderful show, and it will pull your emotional strings as if you are a tiny helpless puppet.

If you're still unsure, download the first episode and see what you think. It only gets better.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com
Fandom definitely changes you. It's like building up a tolerance to alcohol, really. I have a high tolerance after all these years, so I'm an expensive date.

Actor RPF doesn't so much squick me as bore me - I just don't think most actors are really very interesting people, unlike the characters they might play. But politician slash, now...:D

I think Good Omens is the only fandom I'm in that might have some uncrossed lines left. Can't imagine that Aziraphale/Crowley rapefic or chan involving the wee ickle Antichrist being molested by anyone would go over well. Actually, once when I was co-modding a holiday exchenge and we had a lot of deadbeats, my co-mod and I had a blast squicking ourselves royally with story ideas like this in case some participants turned out to deserve a serious lump of coal in their stocking.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 20thcenturyvole.livejournal.com
And there's a meme! I missed that the first time around.

My chief fandom is Stargate: Atlantis, which has been likened to the fannish equivalent of a huge drunken Mardi Gras. It is the fandom where you scroll down your flist, see wingfic, ninjas, animal transformations, bodyswaps and so on, and think, "Aw. When are they going to do something new?"

Date: 2006-05-02 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com
Nazgul porn

Hey, I resemble that remark. :D

Why aren't more people doing it?

Date: 2006-05-02 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dune-drd.livejournal.com
Go watch Life on Mars. NOW. (I would add a better review of the show, but its pure concept leaves me speechless.)



Date: 2006-05-02 08:14 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-05-02 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
Meanwhile, a question for you Brits - I have heard good things about Life on Mars, and it is very soon out on DVD - so should I fork over yet more money to the BBC and get it? Any other recs while at it?

Well, not a Brit, just a wee German with too much spare time and a predilection or British telly programmes, but, yeah, Life is Mars is simply brilliant.
It's a fandom with canonical bondage sex on LSD -- that probably sums it up. And you don't neceassrily have to order the DVDs to watch it -- I'm just sayin'... :)

And I found Ultraviolet, a 1998 mini-series about an anti-vampire special taskforce, pretty cool, too.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darksylvia.livejournal.com
I was just waiting for an SPN wank. And that is one sick story, man.

PS: Do you have a rec list for Doctor Who fics? Because I just started watching and want to wade into the fanfiction, but it's a little daunting.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Eh. RPF tends to wigg me out when it touches on families of actors and such, people who are not in the public eye much. Like fics where Orlando Bloom is abused as a child or what-not. Depends a bit what I find to be the author's intent with it all as well, with me.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Supernatural had fanfic wank. A fic was written about one brother forcing the other to yank him off while they were kids. People got wigged.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Heh. Just goes to show what is "normal" in one fandom is a LSD trip in another. But ninjas are always win.

And duly noted on the Mars front.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boz4pm.livejournal.com
Politican slash?! O.o Ai, the horror! It burns!

Date: 2006-05-02 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
See, my dad's a politician and I find the whole concept quite weird for me. Then again, maybe Norwegian politicians are more dull. Plus, we have Canon slash.

I've never gotten around to poking about Good Omens fandon. I should, really, given how I read the book once a month and all.

Tequila?

Date: 2006-05-02 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Heh, so noted.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yes, I know. But I feel naughty enough already having my friend Kit Borrent help me with Doctor Who, and I have the money, so if it's good, might as well get the DVD. (I got The Office yesterday.)

Hum, interesting...

Date: 2006-05-02 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immoralilly.livejournal.com
Ahhh. So not RPS, then. I think I got confused by the comment above.

The wee!Sam and Dean fics I don't like and won't read. Not surprised that it turned into a wank.

Curse this web blocker. I want to know what's going on in my terminally dirty fandom!

Date: 2006-05-02 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puredeadthingy.livejournal.com
Hmm...Life On Mars was good for the first few episodes, but it was only meant to run for one series. Then it was so popular they decided to run it for another one...so the last episode is a cop-out. But it's worth checking out.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boz4pm.livejournal.com
Nah, this is a Nazgul in tropical Rohan with a Sue: click at own risk - the rudeness (and the badfic) lie in wait

The author said it was meant to be humourous, but the 'sexual humour' tag only got slapped on once critical reviews came in. This was my first MST - Eomer will never forgive me for it, poor man. He got horribly, horribly drunk.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boz4pm.livejournal.com
Ewwww! Okay, you win. That's worse.

Date: 2006-05-02 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddlyfamiliar.livejournal.com
Wow. I think the best part of that wank was the person that replied with the whole condon/engourage thing. That made me laugh so much, unlike the fic. That made me throw up in my mouth a little.

As far as Life on Mars goes, I've barely even watched an episode of it, but what I did see was pretty damn good. As for other recs, Green Wing is freaking hysterical. It's set in a hospital, but it is practically a sketch show - the most random things happen. I'd recommend DLing the first episode to see if you like it, then buyy the first series :)

Date: 2006-05-02 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Sure do. Here and here will get you a starting point, at least.
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