And thus ended the World Cup...
Jul. 9th, 2006 11:05 pmFOR SHAME ZIDANE
WTF was that? You purposely headbutted that guy in the stomach. I gather you might've been provoked by something he said, but that doesn't make the action any less inexcusable. Sad, sad end to a fantastic career. I only cheered France for you, you know.
And as a result, I kinda ended up cheering Italy. Sorta. I didn't mind their win at least. I know, I know. But they've played better than I expected and so... Well done, Italy. I congratulate you. And coming from me, that's quite something.
Nice haircut too.
World Cup summary my style to follow tomorrow, but for now, I am going to bed and shaking my head over Zidane.
Why, dude, why?
WTF was that? You purposely headbutted that guy in the stomach. I gather you might've been provoked by something he said, but that doesn't make the action any less inexcusable. Sad, sad end to a fantastic career. I only cheered France for you, you know.
And as a result, I kinda ended up cheering Italy. Sorta. I didn't mind their win at least. I know, I know. But they've played better than I expected and so... Well done, Italy. I congratulate you. And coming from me, that's quite something.
Nice haircut too.
World Cup summary my style to follow tomorrow, but for now, I am going to bed and shaking my head over Zidane.
Why, dude, why?
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:17 pm (UTC)Personally, I'm booing Italy's win just cos I wanted France to win, Zidane going bonkers or no, but meh.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:17 pm (UTC)I was still cheering for France though, they worked so hard on the offence.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:17 pm (UTC)*sobs*
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:40 pm (UTC)Which is why I want to know what the other player said. Not because that gives Zidane the right, but it must have been pretty bad for him to explode like that.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:48 pm (UTC)Nonetheless, it's something that all Maghrebins live with every single day in France, I know how they feel after years and years of living with it. Zidane, who is a world class player and a generally decent guy, shouldn't have to be treated to that on the field. Not in international play like this. But I'm not sure if Zidane will actually talk about it. And so, we may never know.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:54 pm (UTC)And, yeah, North Africans get a rough deal in France as it is. And I think Zidane himself - being captain for France - has gone some way to help build some bridges in that respect, though there's a long way to go. It's bad enough when fans chant racist abuse - and FIFA comes down hard on teams whose supporters do that - without players doing it as well.
It would not surprise me if Zidane doesn't mention it. I think it will come down to whether anyone else on the pitch heard what was said or not.
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Date: 2006-07-09 10:30 pm (UTC)I know all too well what it's like to not be white and French in France. I lived in France, as a student, and met my ex, who is Moroccan, there. There is definitely different ways of treating Arab and African immigrants and I was witness to many things I never believed I would ever see. It's appalling, shocking and, more importantly for the victim, utterly demoralising.
I know that there was an article, prior to the World Cup, about racism in football. I've already decried the lack of diversity on most European teams.
I wouldn't be surprised either if Zidane says nothing. First, I imagine, because of his utter shame over what he did. And also, because he's not the kind of guy to tattle.
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Date: 2006-07-10 07:53 am (UTC)I can well believe it. I know many North Africans, several of them 'Beurs' (French-born Algerians), so know from first-hand accounts what kind of things they are subject to in France.
That said, however, on this morning's news they are showing a replay of the incident in the 'shirt-pulling' moment (by Materazzi on Zidane) they are pointing out what looks like a nipple tweak which kind of... well, I dunno - is that sort of thing common on the football field? *lol* Just strikes me as deeply weird, but anyway. Zidane still walked away from it, so there was still something said that made him see red, but that tweak may have been a contributing factor. I agree with your assessment on why Zidane may never say anything, though, so it's possible we may never know.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:23 pm (UTC)Speechless.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:40 pm (UTC)I'm a bit calmer now than during the last weeks. I could even watch the Italians without many hard feelings left. Good to see we can still party :)
HUh, World Cup's over. WHAT WILL I WATCH ON TV NOW?!?!
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:47 pm (UTC)This is just guesswork, but I think it was probably something racist. Zidane is an Arab, and apparently especially sensitive about racist remarks.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:56 pm (UTC)I think it's fair to say most French North Africans are, to be honest.
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Date: 2006-07-10 05:36 pm (UTC)Whispers over at BBC now, though, allege that Materazzi insulted Zidane's mother.
Regardless of what was said, Zidane is a brilliant, mature footballer and a great captain (and wonderfully w00bie, in my fangirly opinion anyway). It is such a shame, a real shame, that his career ended the way it did.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:40 pm (UTC)You are right. Such a shame.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:51 pm (UTC)I was very sad the French captain let whatever said get to him.
I am also very sad with how some bitter French fans will defend their team loss and Zidane's redcard by blaming the one Italian who provoked Zidane. Instead of "We still played a good game and gave the Italians a scare.", there's "THE ITALIANS ARE EVIL DIVING BAD MOUTHING SNEAKY CHEATS! WE WERE ROBBED!" Now that's what you call sore losers.
Aww, the Italians afterwards...I smile for Italia!
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Date: 2006-07-10 03:25 pm (UTC)Why can't they all just be friends?Whether Zidane headbutted him or not, it wouldn't have made Materazzi a better person, but perhaps Zidane's retirement game would have had a better light. I liked Zidane and it made ms sad to see him walk off the field with such bitter dejection. With his experience and the not-so-niceness that comes with the World Cup, I just wished he hadn't done it so that people would remember him for his great playing more instead of the headbutt.no subject
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Date: 2006-07-10 06:50 am (UTC)Despite that the France's penalty was fake(yet the referee ignored another one that actually was), the French team played better than the Italians overall, especially in the second half. But Italians were lucky this time so, yey for them!
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Date: 2006-07-10 06:10 pm (UTC)A small side-note, because I think I saw someone write it, but Zidane is not an Arab, he's a Berber.
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Date: 2006-07-11 12:42 am (UTC)He didn't call him a terrorist. Read my comment.
Though truth be told, there are going to be so many "versions" of what Materazzi said that...
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Date: 2006-07-11 12:40 am (UTC)Zidane acted...well, that was just a NO! But to be frank, if someone had insulted my mother like that, I would scratch their eyes out. Actually, wait, I did do that once. Maybe not to the point of the person being hospitalized but it was certainly in a public enough place and that person insulted my mother. So I can understand completely, entirely and totally why Zidane acted the way he did.