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Got alerted to this by a friend of mine.

This is how inane CSI ship-arguments get

I don't give a fuck if William Petersen touch Jorja Fox in real life. What the hell? Before you reply to me with your dumbass comeback, read my post. You're bringing up shit that I didn't even talk about. And, incase you didn't notice, my post said "RESPECT GSR" not "RESPECT WILLIAMPETERSEN/JORJAFOXOMGZ" so just shut the fuck up. If you care to stop being a little bitch and actually use your real screen name, then maybe I'll actually take you seriously.

Says a sockpuppet. The irony, it burns like a flaming thing.

I'm sure most of the GS fans are too busy laughing at your icons, because their ship is canon and you're acting like a jealous bitch.

Actually, this one is busy wanting a drink.

But first - CAM'S CSI FANDOM GUIDELINES TO NOT BEING A SHIPPING ASSHAT (may apply to other fandoms too):

*Disclaimer: Do not apply to all and will occasionally get broken by even the most sanest of shippers, for fandom lures a little batshit out of anyone.

1) You never speak for your whole ship, so stop acting like official spokesperson. Just because someone shares your like of a particular couple does not mean they share your like of being an obnoxious twat. Okay?

2) Your ship is in fact NOT superior to anyone else's. It may be more Canon, have hotter people involved, have better quality fanfic or whatever else you want to credit it with, but it's still fictional people you rather like as a couple just like other shippers like other fictional people as a couple.

3) Do not make blanket statements about any other group of shippers like "anyone who likes Ecklie and the Sheriff must have bad footsmell!" or "you'd only ship Hodges/Vartan if you have no life and go on the Jerry Springer show!" For one, they're often not true. For two, even if some of it is true, there are exceptions. For three, it makes you look immature and who knows, maybe someone will be using you as an excuse to make blanket statements about your ship, and you don't want that, do you?

Also, for four, give me a fucking break. No, I mean it. A vacation from batshittery would be sweet for a while.

4) You do not know why people like a particular ship. You may have theories, but you don't know unless you've gone and asked all of them. Therefore, don't assume. People who ship Grissom and Sara need not have daddy issues, and people who ship Grissom and Catherine need not be having daughter issues. Clear?

5) Character bashing is the dreck at the bottom of the barrel of ship arguments. It leaves a nasty smell in your mouth and the smell stays for monts. Because how you feel about a fictional character - say Sara - is not how others feel about her, not even other fictional characters - say Grissom. Because you are you and not anyone else. So if you hate Sara, that is only really relevant to why you'd prefer Grissom not to shag her and not why the world will end omg if he does in the show.

And keep it out of fanfics too, for !lo, it makes the fanfic smell of poo-poo.

6) A ship is not a religion. You do in fact not need to convert people to save their fandom soul.

7) There is no shame in not defending the glory of your ship omg at every turn. Your ship is fictional. It will survive being insulted, and you can spend time writing naughty things or some such instead. Not every shipping war needs to be fought. Fandom can always entertain itself elsewhere.

8) Another group of shippers being gitty is not an excuse for you to be. Really. Really, really, really. You don't actually need to sink to their level. It's not like fandom is crying out for more asshats and a bag of chips, please.

9) People who don't like your ship may actually be nice people. Yes, I know. Quite shocking. But you need not test this theory by seeing how much of an asshat you need to be before they snap. Yes, even nice people can lose their temper. This does not mean you were right in thinking they were all horrid, horrid people all along.

10) Manners, manners, manners. Think of them. They think of you. Nekkid and wanking without them. It makes them sad.

Now, free drinks in the wankshelter bar for any who is not a shipping asshat. What's your pleasure?
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Date: 2006-08-04 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greyladybast.livejournal.com
Coffee, please. It's too early in the morning here for anything stronger.

Date: 2006-08-04 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
With milk or without?

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Date: 2006-08-04 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilstorm.livejournal.com
their ship is canon

Them's fightin' words, they are.

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Date: 2006-08-04 12:29 pm (UTC)
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Okay, now I feel like heading off to The Croft Institute.

What's the house special tonight?

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Date: 2006-08-04 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teenwitch77.livejournal.com
You never speak for your whole ship, so stop acting like official spokesperson.

Yes! Thank you! God, some people need to hear this a lot.

Gimme something strong, I think. It's late, it's okay now XD

Date: 2006-08-04 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teenwitch77.livejournal.com
Oh God, and that wank is on a House post. House even sparks CSI wank. *sighs*

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Date: 2006-08-04 12:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
I'll have me a cointreau, thanks.

*throws it back in one go*

Another?

Date: 2006-08-04 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Have two. One for your brain and one for the ghost of it.

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Date: 2006-08-04 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabbinivy.livejournal.com
brilliant!

can you add something about not getting cranky w those who don't ship anyone?

oh, and can i have a double chocolate frappacino?

again, fantastic rant!

Date: 2006-08-04 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yes, that is a good point. I've seen genfans go after shippers and shippers go after genfans, so yay for stupidity all around, I guess.

Sure thing!

Date: 2006-08-04 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yattara.livejournal.com
Word. File off the serial numbers and it applies to all fandoms.

*glares at Harmoanians.*

And I'll have a screwdriver.

Date: 2006-08-04 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
As batshit shippers go, those are indeed top class.

Sonic? :P

Date: 2006-08-04 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_tallian_/
I'll take an Irish coffee, heavy on the whiskey.

This almost makes me want to swear off shipping and stick with casefiles. People can just be insane.

Date: 2006-08-04 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oki doki.

Yes, but they can be insane without being shippers too.

Date: 2006-08-04 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] me2you.livejournal.com
"You never speak for your whole ship, so stop acting like official spokesperson"

Why did one particular person pop right into my head there? It's almost as if this described them perfectly...

i'm too much of a lady to name names, though ;)

Date: 2006-08-04 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You're such a tease. Meanie.

I want to knooooooooow

Date: 2006-08-04 01:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
CSI wank makes me feel strangely at home. I think there's something wrong with me. Nothing some booze can't cure, of course.

Date: 2006-08-04 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Booze coming right up.

Maybe you like to linger somewhere you get reminded of own sanity?

Date: 2006-08-04 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slm4gsr.livejournal.com
Shipping is in fact a strange phenomenon. My pet peeve falls under the "blanket statement" category. I can't stand when people refer to shipper groups as "the Grillows" or "the GSRs" or "the Sandles" and then proceed to make sweeping generalizations. The generalizations are bad enough without throwing the dumbass names into the equation. Also, if you are spending your free time perusing the website of another shipper group and reporting their wank back to your own shipper group...it's time for you to find a hobby.

Margarita on the rocks, no salt please! ::slides generous tip across the bar::

Date: 2006-08-04 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Also, if you are spending your free time perusing the website of another shipper group and reporting their wank back to your own shipper group...it's time for you to find a hobby.

Heeeeey - wank can be a hobby! :P

And oh God, the idiot ship names in this fandom. I hate them with a burning passion and want to magic marker them out of fandom.

*sends over drink* Complimentary nuts at your disposal, of course.

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Date: 2006-08-04 02:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] scarlettgirl.livejournal.com
Oh Bless. There should, however, be a no passive-agression clause for the woeful "everyone just thinks I'm mean because I think their opinions are BATSHIT and told them all so. What's wrong with them?"

Date: 2006-08-04 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I'm always tempted to answer "you're what's wrong with them". But that might be mean of me.

Date: 2006-08-04 02:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shandydann
All this shipping wank reminds me of the fans attitude to blur and oasis.

Oasis rocks Blur are gay!girls yada, yada and vice versa while I liked both bands I could never see the point. Especially when certain elements of both bands were being wanky as well.

I need A-Ha porn.

But I'll have a flaming black sambuca with a coffeebean please.

Date: 2006-08-04 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Man, that was a long time ago. The Blur versus Oasis thing - I do remember it.

I feel old now.

Can't help you with the porn, but your alcohol is coming right up.

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Date: 2006-08-04 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddlyfamiliar.livejournal.com
Aaaaaand this is why I don't fangirl CSI as much as I used to.

I'll have a glass of white wine, please.

...actually, better make it a bottle.

Date: 2006-08-04 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Right you. Better safe than agonised.

Date: 2006-08-04 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-angel72.livejournal.com
*winces* Afraid I've fallen off the wagon on one or two of those. Hopefully not to the point of *omgissheNUTs????* but eh. Weirdly, it's only been in one fandom. Ah well, gives me perspective to stay ON the wagon with the sane people. Lovely list to keep in mind when playing in any fandom's sandbox, really.

Rum punch for my confession? :D

Date: 2006-08-04 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Heck, have fallen off the wagon on a few of those myself. As my disclaimer says, can happen to anyone. However, if it happens on a very frequent basis, then I'd start to worry.

Rum punch it is.

Date: 2006-08-04 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colorstoobright.livejournal.com
I want to copy this whole post and make it my screensaver.

Date: 2006-08-04 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You could flash it at unsuspecting strangers entering and see them get confused.

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Date: 2006-08-04 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avonassac.livejournal.com
I want the strongest stuff you got and do not give me a limit either.

You should check into seeing if you can publish that guide of yours and distribute it to the CSI world. It'd be a much peaceful place.. and my liver wouldn't suffer as much.

Date: 2006-08-04 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Given the nature of fandom, this bar does not believe in limits. Drink till the pain goes away and a new one comes, that's our motto.

Ah, but no one would think it applied to them. Never does, you see. It's always the other side.

Date: 2006-08-04 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cadiliniel.livejournal.com
Hodges/Vartan? That would be way hot.

Date: 2006-08-04 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Heh, I was wondering if someone would comment on my choice of ship examples ;)

Date: 2006-08-04 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiccagirl24.livejournal.com
Thank you. That was lovely and entertaining.

I tried to read the post you linked to, but after a few posts I started getting a headache.

6) A ship is not a religion. You do in fact not need to convert people to save their fandom soul.

This is my favorite rule.

Irish coffee please?

Date: 2006-08-04 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Sure thing. Strong on the alcohol, this one.

And yeah, I hear you on the headache. I was trying to find logic in there and found only pain.

Date: 2006-08-04 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cincoflex.livejournal.com
oy, a nice Ouzo please, room temperature. It's killer to belong to both fandoms and quietly, persistently 'ship while trying to avoid the Scylla and Charybdis of apposing wank wars.

Does anyone else out there wonder, as I do, if the show executives get some sort of sick kick out of following some of these 'ship wars? Sometimes feel as if they tell the writers to write scenes in various eps just to see what sort of reaction they can gauge within the fandoms after they're aired.

Date: 2006-08-04 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Hee.

Well, I don't know about CSI, but I do know some elements of the Doctor Who powers get amusement out of fandom. I know if it was a show I ran, I'd be hard pressed to stay away.

Ouzo for you, not cooled at all.

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Date: 2006-08-04 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluerosefairy.livejournal.com
Oh, this is getting memoryfied. Thank God SOMEONE said all those wonderfully smart points, and thank God it was you instead of someone only saying it to end up on fandom_wank or some such.

And since it's after noon here, I'll have a nice Malibu Bay Breeze, grenadine and Bacardi instead of the coconut rum. My tummy doesn't like coconuts, but it does like Bay Breezes.

Date: 2006-08-04 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-andromache.livejournal.com
Amen to that sister. ;)

Date: 2006-08-04 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessickuh.livejournal.com
I'm one step ahead of you, [livejournal.com profile] colorstoobright. I want this post printed on a shirt so that I can take a picture, get someone with icon skillz to make an icon out of it, and post it while commenting to the wankiest of posts.

Thing is, I actually do have some of this girl's icons, as I think they're not that bad. Some are even pretty good, in my opinion. I never had an inkling of her being anti-GSR/conceited/contradictory or any of the things she was accused of, which really brings to mind rule #9.

Bailey's please. And since there are no limits, I'll be coming back for more.

Date: 2006-08-04 07:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kasuchi
You win at life. Seriously.

And I agree; nix a few names and this could apply to any fandom any time. I'm so sick of shipping wars. If it's canon, it's canon. We obviously can't do anything about it, so why the hell do people bitch? It's not like their / our bitching will get the EPs to change the flow of the show / novel / movie.

And seriously, people gotta realize that it's all fiction. You can invest only so much.

My favorite part? The religion bit. Thank you for that.

And I'd like a chocolate martini. ♥

Date: 2006-08-05 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siraj.livejournal.com
... ... I think I'm going to need a snifter of plum brandy. My brain hurts from the wank this list resulted from.
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