Much ado about WTF, fandom and fic meme

[misscam]

Mum dragged me to see the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie yesterday, and we agreed it was a good watch, but the first was funnier.

Also, am I the only one in the world who does not lust Johnny Depp and/or Jack Sparrow? Because he really doesn't do much for me in that department.

First promo pictures for season three of Doctor Who

Obviously, spoilers if you haven't seen season two and heard the British media buzz. WTF, costume department? That suit is not that becoming in those pictures, oi. But Martha looks good. (I want her jacket. Yes.) But is it just me that finds promo pictures often rather silly due to the various poses they strike? It's all very "we are harcore, yo" sometimes. Okay, maybe just me.

I spy with my little eye DW Real Person Fic:
“I wish we had more scene’s like that.” Billie said quietly.
Will fandom embrace this and make it a trend, one wonders? (I used to get a bit wary around RPF - a lot of it related to tinhat experiences-, but you know fandom has mellowed me out when what makes me groan is the grammar.)

Follow-up on the Cassie Claire plagiarism debacle - Heidi plagiarism debacle. Oh dear. Oh deeeeear. This is certainly getting more involved by the minute. WTF, Harry Potter fandom? (Does make you wonder - how much is a fandom formed by its early BNF members? How much is it formed as a reaction to them? I wonder, I do.)

The WTF is high in this one as well

Sounds like it could be handy for performing abortions, and I'm sure a lot of us would be tempted to use such a device on those who deserve it.

... You know, I am rather strongly pro-choice, but that also means people should have a choice to attempt to carry their fetus to term if they so wish. (The body can be fairly cruel in that manner and not always give you a choice. Part of the reason I don't believe in life at conception - if you follow that, the human body is the most prolific abortion performer out there.) Also, "deserve" it? Charmed, I'm sure.

Finally, seems to be a new sort of "DVD commentary on fics" meme going about - where you do one on someone else's fic. If any feel like doing one of mine, I'd be all too flattered. Might be possible to arrange some sort of trade, too. You'll find examples of how it's done here.

Comments

[dune-drd.livejournal.com]

How can they do that to my beloved brown pinstripe suit?? *sniffles*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

They're... cruel?

[aervir.livejournal.com]

So, Heidi is guilty of plagiarism as well? Ahahahaha!

I'm not even in HP fandom; I don't interact with these people, but after all I have heard about Cassie and Heidi and Co., such news just fills me with the glee of Schadenfreude. Yes, I am mean.

(I have to say, though, that I don't believe it necessary to make MLA-style footnotes for every quote and allusion one borrows. I think that citing other books, screenplays or song lyrics without enumerating them in your disclaimer is fine up to a certain point and as long as you don't try to pass them off as your own when asked.)

And I'm not even going to comment at length on the "people deserving abortions" remark. It would only develop into a major rant, especially after I've taken a look at the user info and recent posts on cf_hardcore in general.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Welcome to the club of mean ;) Though my reaction is much more WTF than anything else so far. Truly, WTF?

(Depends a bit how you borrow, I think. And what - the more famous it is, the less you need to specify, me thinks. People will know the source material, so a general reference tends to do. At least in something as informal as fanfic.)

[denorios.livejournal.com]

I miss the brown pinstripe. And I miss Billie.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

You have a long time to adjust still - season three is a long while away still, after all.

[evilstorm.livejournal.com]

Holy motherfucking grandma of bananas, HP fandom. They're certainly churning out a lot of epic wank this year.

And the childfree people? Should be shot. Seriously. The guy is proposing aggravated assault (for the death of the fetus) as well as giving the mother more health complications than you can think of, most likely including uterine cancer. Please, someone, just shoot the fucking nutjob already. Only consolation is that the science is so bad it's not happening anyway.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Seem to be going through BNFs one by one, really.

Yeah, it looked like fairly wonky science. I mean, a "gun" like that would most likely kill cells in the mother too, in the process.

[phantomkim.livejournal.com]

I want pinstrip look back =[ and Billie. I seriously am not keen on Martha all that much.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I wasn't that keen on David Tennant to begin with, but that changed quickly enough. Bit early to tell yet, really.

Wait and see, maybe? There was a lot of sceptisism to Billie at first as well.

[boz4pm.livejournal.com]

O.o @ the Heidi plagarism. Of course, not being the HP fandom I'd never heard of these people. I only knew of Cassandra Claire due to the VSDs. But the idea that this was considered legitimate and acceptable practice... *is lost for words* Stupid or conniving? I'm not quite sure which.

Words also fail me on the remote-control abortion device, let alone the 'comments' on it. I'm so angry I had best hold my tongue. Suffice it to say it took nine years of trying and two failed pregnancies to get my daughter, and the idea that some psychotic arsehole thinks this is a good idea - to put a woman through that trauma - is sickening.

Did you get that link I sent you about the giant crabs of doom off the coast of Norway? I mean, I have never quite understood how I could be scared of spiders but not crabs, but those things are HUGE and would scare the willies out of me, frankly. Freaked me out just looking at the picture. O.o

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Yes, I did. But we've been talking about those crabs here for years already. Whether we should attempt to kill them or catch and sell them with profit or what.

People are quite often ignorant little idiots when it comes to issues where they consider their opinion the only valid one, I find.

[me2you.livejournal.com]

You know, every time I see "JF" I read it as "Jorja Fox". There's more wank on Jorja again, interesting... :P

[misscam.livejournal.com]

You have a kinky mind.

[anckyria.livejournal.com]

No, you're not the only one who isn't drooling buckets when looking at Johnny Depp. While I consider him a very good actor, he does absolutely nothing at all for me in the lusting department, especially as Jack Sparrow.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Huzzah, am not alone!

[git-the-goddess.livejournal.com]

...the suit! It's gone wrong!
That blue thing looks like some sort of uniform. Reminds me of a coat I had to wear in one factory job I had a while back.

It's the pinstripes or nothing, I say! Hey, it's a win-win situation. Mmmm, naked Ten...

[misscam.livejournal.com]

He'd get awfully cold, though.

[greyladybast.livejournal.com]

Re: the Doctor's suit:

So they changed the color? So what? The Third Doctor did it all the time, and the Fourth liked to play Fun With Coat Lengths. Hell, come to think of it, most of the Doctors changed around their signature look a little from time to time. I hesitate to say "all" only because I haven't seen 'em all, and there are many I haven't seen in a good, long time as well, so I may be forgetting things. However, messing around with The Look is a time-honored Who tradition. As far as I'm concerned, changing Ten's look a little is just another of those sweet little nods to the Old Skool that keep popping up all over the show. It's the best kind of Who continuity* I can think of.

Re: Abortion Ray Gun:

o.O? Wtf? WTF?? WTF??? *tries to wrap brain around concept, fails, head explodes*

Re: Plagiarism and the Harry Potter fandom:

Some things, I just won't touch. Sorry.

Bast

*such as continuity is in Doctor Who....

[yattara.livejournal.com]

such as continuity is in Doctor Who....

It has any? :P

[psychater.livejournal.com]

-raises hand-

Johnny Depp does nothing to me:\

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Another one!

[ashestothestars.livejournal.com]

1. That blue suit makes me sad.
2. Johnny Depp does nothing for me. Good actor and all, but he just rates a "meh" with me.
3. I'm staying the hell out of the Harry Potter fandom. I'm not touching that with a 10 foot clown pole.

*wanders off to find her daily cup of tea*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Harry Potter fandom touches us all whether we want to or not, I sometimes feel.

*gets urge for tea as well*

[yattara.livejournal.com]

Sparrow does make my motor run. But to each her own.

The new round of HP-batshittery is just that, batshit. I'm trying to be all outraged, but I can't be arsed right now.

That, and I used all the energy for the abortion-gun thingy. Call me when I re-enter atmosphere. *livid.*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Most certainly ;)

I'm boggling too much at everything happening in HP fandom to feel anything else about it, really. Much WTFery.

[tabbinivy.livejournal.com]

wow! when did i fall thru the looking glass?

johnny depp... nah... especially after watching fear and loathing in las vegas. and that's what i see when i see jack sparrow. hunter thompson as a pirate.

hp fandom... just huh?!?!

ray gun? WTF!!??? what happens if you miss and hit someone else? never mind the whole choice debate.

i'm mad, you're mad, we're all mad here. cheshire cat, alice in wonderland

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Madness keeps one from being bored, at least.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_tallian_/]

Johnny Depp makes me tingle, but as said above, to each her own.

I must admit, I like the blue suit. Maybe I'm removed enough from it not to be sad for the loss of the stripes? And Martha looks interesting.

Abortion gun: sigh. I hate when I share opinions with loonies. I'd like to think these folks are just sharing frustrations. As someone who's chosen to be childfree, and is horrified by our ballooning population, I can see venting like this. But I'd never ever even consider doing it. Reality is not resolved this way. Or the pro-lifers would be locking up every woman of childbearing age and forcing them to "do the right thing".

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Could be, could be. And everyone has varying tastes anyhoo.

If you're going to be horrified by ballooning population, the West wouldn't be my first worry, though. The child rates in Europe are so low it's actually somewhat of a worry, given the ageing population. If CF people are so keen on population getting under control, they should start supporting iniatives in poor countries that give sex-ed and advocate the use of condoms etc, not harass anyone pregnant.

[antistar-e.livejournal.com]

*raises hand* I didn't go for Johnny Depp. I went because I'm a whore for special effects, and that's one thing you can always count on Pirates for having XD

[darksylvia.livejournal.com]

rather silly due to the various poses they strike? It's all very "we are harcore, yo" sometimes.

Not just you. Especially silly since usually the Doctor IS so silly and in these pictures he's all "I COULD KICK YOUR ASS".

[--kali--.livejournal.com]

It's a week of wank this week, how many more famdoms will be dragged into the wankpocalypse? *is kinda glad she's escaping to the slightly more sedate Cardiff for the weekend*

[despertarse.livejournal.com]

Pfft, Sparrow?
I didn't particularly rave about the movie, but Norrington was definitely the scene stealer for me, that dirtyrottenscoundrel. Mmm, what a badass. Is it bad that I hearted him?

[fannishnonsense]

Gah. It's idiots like that that made me stop referring to myself as "childfree." Which is sad, because it's a perfectly good descriptive term. But I like kids just fine, and I certainly don't want to be associated with freaks like that!

[robin-2370-hood.livejournal.com]

I'm just happy the Doctor gets to keep his Chucks. I'm sad about the pinstripes, they looked really good, but I get the new girl means new look thing.

That ray gun makes me sad. I don't like the idea of "She did me wrong, so I'll shoot her with a ray gun to get back at her."

I'm not involved in the Harry Potter fandom, and if I go by what I read, I don't want to be.

[canadian-kazz.livejournal.com]

I don't like the blue suit. I love the colour, just not on him. The only Docto Who character who should wear a blue like that is the TARDIS.

Heh...DVD commentary on fics. I kinda like that idea...

[melliyna.livejournal.com]

I went to POTC for Jack Davenport mainly. He is just so good as Norrington (although I don't mind Johnny Depp at all. Just not as Jack Sparrow. I keep thinking of all the stuff I know about the cleaniness of pirates at that time and it kind of puts one off lusting after him).

I don't mind the new Doctor Who costumes at all really (and I'll be very interested to see what Martha is like) but at the moment my poor shallow little mind is still stuck on drooling over David Tennant in Girl in the Fireplace. It is a happy place.

[megpie71.livejournal.com]

You don't like Jack Sparrow? Oh good. More for me *grin*. But then, I've been a fan of Johnny Depp since "Jump Street", and it's hard to give up such a longstanding fandom.

As for the abortion gun... well, this is why I'm reluctant to comment about being childfree by choice in public. I tend to get mistaken for one of these "all children are horrible and should be dead" nutbars. I'm actually okay with the idea of kids - I'm just not all that keen on the notion of me having any (too selfish to be a decent Mum - I'd resent giving up my life).

WRT to the new companion, it's just more of the New School paying credit to the Old School. Admittedly, this won't stop the 'shippers (nobody can stop the 'shippers) but Rose leaving won't be the end of the series.

[saturnianali8r.livejournal.com]

I love Johnny Depp, and I adored PotC3 (mainly the Elizabeth collapse, no one notice, 3 way fight, with Ragetti and Pintel sneaking behind part. That was hilarious.)

Now also AngieJ/Ebony plagiarism. http://www.journalfen.net/community/bad_penny/11600.html#cutid1