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And thus we have a Doctor Who hatememe again

In summary:
There is hate for shippers and hate for Rose fans and hate for Romana fans and hate for a lot of fic and a lot of people. I'm apparently [livejournal.com profile] kammgirl (wft? That one was new) and also I hate [livejournal.com profile] nostalgia_lj (oooookay) and there are theories who I might be passive aggressively calling out for being passive aggressive. Elsewhere, someone claims to have shagged two DW writers. Impressive indeed. There is whining about the lack of gen fic. A Rose/Doctor shipper challenges the concept of Doctor/Martha. Some go against the flow and are not anon at all. There is porn. Vaguely. Also, [livejournal.com profile] thedorkygirl turns me on by being all STFU.

Oh yes, and there's "Take me Time Lord" action.

[Poll #812847]

(Shut up, I am sick and blah and bored. I poll you for my entertainment and curiosity.)

Date: 2006-09-03 12:29 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
The hate for Romanafen makes me laugh, since all we ever do is post fic and screencaps, and occasionally let [livejournal.com profile] nostalgia_lj poke us into subverting fanon a bit. Like the evil clique we are.

Date: 2006-09-03 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
The things people will work up a deep hate for in fandom has stopped surprising me, really.

Evil cliques are the best kinds, though.

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Date: 2006-09-03 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
And [livejournal.com profile] who_otp has only got 112 people on its f-list anyway, a few of whom I've also seen shipping Doctor/Rose.

And there isn't even much traffic in the comm. So why the hate?

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Date: 2006-09-03 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-angel72.livejournal.com
Those things give me a stomach ache. I have had my moments, but generally speaking, I simply don't get the harsh feelings. So you don't like it? Don't read it. *shrugs*

But go me! One of my requests for the the Rose Tyler Ficathon was mentioned, evil, should-be-eradicated-from-the-gene-pool lover of romance and fantasy (oh, and don't forget the sin of liking Rose) I am. Really, I should be shot for liking my hobby/escape from RL to be fun. *snort*

Date: 2006-09-03 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kammgirl.livejournal.com
I had my very own thread. I was honored.

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Date: 2006-09-03 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
Which one was yours? The pregnancy, the harem's costume or the Rose-as-property request?

Err, the anonymouse behind the comment I think you are alluding to would be me. And I'd just like to point out that I haven't expressed any desire to eradicate anyone from the human gene pool (or even from fandom). My snark was simply born out of my personal frustration with said ficathon.

I considered signing up for it, then skimmed the requests so far and found quite a few which struck me personally as either ridiculous and/or typical of fanfic that would get written without any sort of ficathon anyway (and is thus in no need of additional promotion).

So I decided to vent a bit at [livejournal.com profile] dw_anon, enumerating a few requests I could dimly remember and certainly didn't want to end up writing. There was no wish to make personal insults behind that. Hell, I don't even know you. Have fun with the ficathon (and that's not meant ironically, BTW). I just happen to have a different idea of escapist fun in fanfiction.

And the next time a hatememe pops up, and I can't resist the urge to complain about something, I'll make sure I never post anonymously again. At least, then everybody will know who they felt offended by.

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Date: 2006-09-04 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendymr.livejournal.com
One of my requests for the the Rose Tyler Ficathon was mentioned, evil, should-be-eradicated-from-the-gene-pool lover of romance and fantasy (oh, and don't forget the sin of liking Rose) I am. Really, I should be shot for liking my hobby/escape from RL to be fun.

See, this is what leaves me completely baffled by these hate-memes. The complete absence of any live-and-let-live mentality is astonishing. So what if you don't like a particular pairing, or a particular interpretation of a particular pairing? There are plenty of outlets for different pairings, or interpretations, or for no pairings at all. That's one thing DW has over other fandoms I have experience of: such a long history with the series, so many characters, leading to many, many forums and comms and outlets for different interests. I don't care for Ten/Reinette, so I don't read the fic or go to [livejournal.com profile] fireplace_man; I read the occasional Doctor/Romana fic, but am not interested in the pairing enough to go to [livejournal.com profile] who_otp; I read Martha fic but am not really ready to 'move on' to Martha yet so haven't been to [livejournal.com profile] lifeonmartha for a few weeks, even though I'm a member. Do I feel threatened by the existence of ships other than my own, or different interpretation of my ship? Why the heck should I?

As for the ficathon, since when has it been necessary for fic exchange requests to be limited to 'worthy' ones? To the best of my knowledge, the two Rose ficathons currently running have one purpose: to celebrate the character of Rose Tyler. Any requests are acceptable as long as they fit within the parameters of the ficathon - a little more restrictive in the case of the gen one, but that makes it interesting. In terms of the ficathon [livejournal.com profile] dark_aegis and I are running, the only real rule we'll be imposing on writers, apart from the focus on Rose, is no character-bashing. Beyond that, any request and any way of answering the request is acceptable.

As with all ficathons, there are requests within the two ficathons I'm currently participating in that I'd be less keen on writing. But people are fully entitled to make the requests they've made and they don't deserve to be sneered at publicly - anonymously or otherwise - for making those requests.

As far as our ficathon is concerned, we're making every effort to take into account writers' interests in making assignments. We're not just looking at what people have stated in their signup information. If we look up a participant and find that he/she mostly writes gen or friendship with subtext, then we're not going to assign them a smut or babyfic request ;)

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Date: 2006-09-03 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fondued-jicama.livejournal.com
Geeze, Cam. I know I'm out of the fandom loop, but I never knew you were such a BNF that people hated you with such alacrity.

It's a little alarming. XD

Date: 2006-09-04 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Fandom has its surprises, huh?

Date: 2006-09-03 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendymr.livejournal.com
Oh, not another bloody hate journal. Staying well away from there. Haven't people got better things to do?

Date: 2006-09-03 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliejordan.livejournal.com
"Staying well away from there."

I've read it and it's really boring. Mostly full of people acting like supporting Rose or Doctor/Rose, and writing fic is the equivalent of murdering babies. The last hate meme, while I generally disagree with them (if you're going to publicly insult people, have the guts to do it without hiding your identity) was a bit more fun. This one's just really repetitive and dull. Even those who are wanking seem to be doing it half-heartedly.

Date: 2006-09-03 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com
Take me time lord will NEVER stop me laughing.

And I am STILL waiting for my Nine/Dalek fiction. Dammit.

Date: 2006-09-03 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regala-electra.livejournal.com
Damn, Doctor Who fandom hasn't written Nine/Dalek? Man. 'Tis sad that someone hasn't posted their epic Nine/Dalek story. Theirloveissogenocidal.

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Date: 2006-09-03 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourradiogeek.livejournal.com
HAH! I am the only "no" to your "Take me time lord." And I do believe that if you continue to get sick, I'll have to bake you cookies with Daleks frosted on them and find a way to send them out there without them going bad.

Date: 2006-09-04 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Not the only no anymore, I'm afraid.

Aww, thanks.

Date: 2006-09-03 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regala-electra.livejournal.com
Heeee.

Oh, hatememes. Bless.

Take me, Time Lord is just hilarious. Any line where you state what a person is really funny. Like having Buffy say, "Oh yes, claim me, Scourge of Europe!" Heeee.

Date: 2006-09-03 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com
Nothing will ever, EVER top "Oh, Spike, fill me up with your little undead soldiers!"

I saw it. It is burned into my retinas.

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Date: 2006-09-03 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kammgirl.livejournal.com
Okay I just read the whole thing. I swear I would not have even known it was there except I just checked my userinfo and saw it. So apparaently I did something horrendous to you or I am trying to suck up to you or I am your sock puppet. This is my first post here and I have done all that. Wow.

Date: 2006-09-04 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
If you were going to be my sockpuppet, I think I would've made you fight less with my friends, really.

And anon memes are anon memes. They tend to go for the crass. Possibly a counter to being polite most of the rest of the time, who knows.

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Date: 2006-09-03 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robin-2370-hood.livejournal.com
I don't find the hate funny, I find the fact that people take the time to think of it, and then to write it, well, maybe there's not much thinking involved.
People amaze me with the odd thoughts they come up with, like "Take me, Time Lord," who thinks of that? Maybe a prerequisite for joining a hate-mem, or anything like it, is being just a little bit crazy, or a lot crazy...

Date: 2006-09-03 07:40 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
Other than that, it's like I died and woke up back in high school. Or even primary school, for some bits. I wish fandom would grow the hell up, sometimes.

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Date: 2006-09-03 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyricalviolet.livejournal.com
Dude, I get it's fandom but...that people are *genuinely* bothered by this stuff (and I don't mean you being bothered by the things people bitch about in hate memes...cuz that shit's annoying as hell...I mean that people sincerly post in hate memes and get so goddamned bent out of shape over their wanks) blows my mind.

I want to hit people and go "it's ain't real kids. It's all fiction. None of this actually exists. Please find something better of be bothered about, like AIDS in Africa, global warming, the wars in the Middle East, the existence of brssel sprouts--anything else! Geez!"

PS--Feel better!

Date: 2006-09-04 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Fandom is Serious Business sometimes, innit? I guess anything you pour energy into you can also get very worked up over when it's not giving you back as much as you feel it does.

Date: 2006-09-03 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedorkygirl.livejournal.com
I did not mean to turn you on, I was just getting sick of seeing the same threads pop up over and again as if they were new -- which they weren't. The only reason to post those things for the fourth or fifth time was to be mean and cutting. Where or WHERE, folks, was the originality?

And suddenly we're all gone from hating nostalgia to being in the cult of her and wanting to make love to her, which really goes to show that FANDOM IS SHEEP. or something. But, yes, fandom is sheep.

Date: 2006-09-04 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh yes. Bæææææ.

I can't help it, I find certain ways of saying STFU very hot indeed.

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Date: 2006-09-03 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarie-gamgee.livejournal.com
I don't know why I bothered to read the whole meme. Some bits made me snicker, but it was mostly eye-roll inducing. It blows my mind that some people don't understand fandom is supposed to be fun (although that's probably their idea of fun).

Get well!

Date: 2006-09-03 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dune-drd.livejournal.com
Mwahahaaha! I actually found one of these Rose batshippers everyone is ranting about *g* Oh, what fun that was

Date: 2006-09-03 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
Are you sure this person was real? Or that it even was the same person?

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Date: 2006-09-03 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaskalcorp.livejournal.com
What do they think of us Ace fans?

Date: 2006-09-03 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaskalcorp.livejournal.com
Hey look! I went through one of your links and posted troll like comments after you specifically asked folks not too!

Disappointed?

heh.

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Date: 2006-09-03 10:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
When I gorw up I want to be a wanky bat who can't write. Etiher that, or marry your brain and have its babies.

Date: 2006-09-04 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Little brain babies? I'm getting a very interesting mental image...

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Date: 2006-09-03 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puredeadthingy.livejournal.com
*sits on hands* Must not wank, must not wank...

Though the handporn picture looks sweet.

Date: 2006-09-03 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] --kali--.livejournal.com
You are [livejournal.com profile] misscam; you are legion.

Literally the only good thing about hate memes is that I can dig [livejournal.com profile] speshulduck's icons out of retirement. Thusly.

Date: 2006-09-04 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I thought I was a sheep?

Date: 2006-09-04 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gypsyjr.livejournal.com
I have to admit, I'm amused by the number of people who apparently hate you yet continue to read your stuff.

Either that was the same anonymouse wanking all over the place, or the internet is full of masochists.

Date: 2006-09-04 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Being anon, you never can tell if it's the same person over and over again, really. I'm pretty sure most have been posting more than one comment, but beyond that, hard to say.

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Date: 2006-09-04 11:23 am (UTC)
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