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So apparently I'm all amoral and untrustworthy and stuff.

I think Athiests get a little bit of the cold shoulder. But can you honestly be surprised? I can't trust anyone that doesn't at least think that there is a posability there is some sort of higher power. Athiests are amoral and think they know better than everyone and think that there is nothing better than them and no one will hold them acountable for thier actions. But no one is fucking telling them what to do. They just get.. ignored. Boo-hoo. (From wank report.)

I feel so informed now. Never knew I weren't held accountable for my actions. All that time I've spent actually thinking my own conscience was as nasty an accounant as anyone else, just totally pointless.

So yes, I am alive and good and sorry about being somewhat absent. There's just been life and WoW and a slight desire to have a break from fandom, as sometimes happen. And the biathlon WC is on - very exciting. Two golds and a silver for Norway so far.

My birthday is in a little over two weeks, which some of you have apparently figured out - I know someone asked for my addy, so here it is because I can't remember who. But if you really want to give me a gift or something, I am just as happy with something given online, like icons or cards or whatever.

WoW update: Lvl 64 and with a wee warp hunter pet named Viserion, who is the cutest. Awww.

[livejournal.com profile] time_and_chips update: [livejournal.com profile] lotus79 and me will be looking for someone to make a new layout for it. Wish us good hunting - or offer your head on the block if you want?

What-makes-Cam-sad update: Violence during an Italian football match leaves one policeman dead. For anyone who is a football fan - and that very much includes me - that is just plain sad. And enraging-

Things a bit tense in the GSR camp of CSI fandom, I see. (Spoilers for upcoming season seven episodes, and have to be a member to read.)

And elsewhere, it's all about the math: i want them to fall flat on their faces, land in the gutter and see snickers and go whoa, thats hot, lets do that, bahahaha.
and what funni is they didnt get MORE viewers, they got less, THEY LOST 25% of the viewers, like, HELLO!!!! the majority of viewers arent shippers, lets say for arguments sake, that 30% of viewers are, that means that while 5% like gsr, 25% dont. its plain math. lol.


Good to know CSI fandom hasn't changed one bit while I've been paying attention elsewhere. May is just totally going to bring another wankimplosion. Better be ready with the drinks.

Now, what did I miss while I was preoccupied? Give me the dish. What's up with you all?
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Date: 2007-02-04 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinneahtes.livejournal.com
Wow, how about you and I and all the other atheists out there go out and steal some cars and light a building on fire and paint swear words on an elementary school's wall! We'll just get ignored, yay!

(And I'm just dying laughing at the line "[atheists] think they know better than everyone else." Because nobody with a god ever tried to shape the laws of their land thinking they knew best, right?)

Date: 2007-02-04 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Neeeeeever happened. Like ever. History is not full of examples of that, no siree! That's just atheist propaganda.

Seems to be really hard for some people to get that what you do with what you believe in is the true test for your morals, because thinking yourself a good person is hardly hard at all.

Date: 2007-02-04 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinneahtes.livejournal.com
Yeah, I notice that I never see a cherished historical figure noted for what s/he believed unless s/he did something about it. Simply sitting there believing didn't do much good for anybody, except maybe that one person's ego.

Date: 2007-02-04 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jocelyncs.livejournal.com
(And I'm just dying laughing at the line "[atheists] think they know better than everyone else." Because nobody with a god ever tried to shape the laws of their land thinking they knew best, right?)

*snerk!* Gotta love it!

My mother saw a televangelist carrying on one day about how "atheists are incapable of feeling love because all love is born in Christ...", and she wondered why it was only atheists and not other non-Christians. (Well, he probably discussed Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, etc earlier in his broadcast.)

Date: 2007-02-04 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mthespinner.livejournal.com
Why is it that people can't spell? Is spell check incompatible with religious belief? Is good grammar a sign of evil nature? Inquiring minds want to know!


And happy birthday!

Date: 2007-02-04 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jocelyncs.livejournal.com
The football riot story got to me too. The rioting is bad enough, and I posted a rant on my LJ today when MSNBC offhandedly included the Hillsborough disaster in events caused by hooliganism (which it wasn't.)

Americans have our share of sports violence, but I don't comprehend the anger wrapped up in European football--both among the fans and towards them.

Date: 2007-02-04 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orla-fey.livejournal.com
It boggles the brain that so many people think morality and religion are inseparable. I know religious people who go to church three times a week, cheat and have affairs. I also know a lot of atheist and agnostic people who give to charity and manage not to murder and rape.

Who would have thunk it?

Date: 2007-02-05 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mademoisellenon.livejournal.com
You're alive... *dead from shock*

Does your gmail account work? I think I've spammed it. Was getting quite worried but Lvl 64 is v.important :)

You've been missed, my dear amoral Norwegian.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinneahtes.livejournal.com
Bwahaha! So wait... Christ only shares the ability to love with people who worship him? Or when you accept Christ, he says, "Voila! I now give you the ability to feel love!"? Huh? (I wonder what this weird emotion I've been feeling toward my family has been, then!)

Date: 2007-02-05 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Did wonders for keeping your head at times, though. Or not be burnt at the stake.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Isn't till the 21st, so a weeee bit early :P

Good grammar is the work of the demons of English, clearly.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jocelyncs.livejournal.com
Indigestion. That's my story.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I remember Hillsborough, actually. The images of people getting pressed against the fence left a bit of a traumatic mark on my fairly young mind. It is quite horrific seeing people getting squished to death. Shudder.

The football is just the outlet - it's really more an angry young men problem than a football problem. But it's still football that has to try to find a way to at least control it.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spudzilla.livejournal.com
You should check out Fundies Say the Darndest Things, if you don't already.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jocelyncs.livejournal.com
I was too young to be aware of it at the time, but when it got into the headlines again this past year, I read about it. It really struck me, not just the event itself, but the way those people were treated afterwards--like criminals. As a lawyer, the fact that the law could be used in that manner is just incredibly galling to me.

Good point about angry young men. Part of America's problem is that we're too rich and spoiled for our own good. When sports riots happen here, it's hedonism moreso than hooliganism, albeit just as destructive.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
A shocking thought that maybe whether or not you are a good person are actually down to whether or not you are a good person, not which particular holy text you follow or don't.

Religion doesn't automatically make you a good person, nor does it stop you from being one, which seem to be the belief of some as well.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:19 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] melliyna.livejournal.com
I'm an agnostic - does that make me half moral half immoral? *goes to save some kittens and set some cars on fire* Seriously though - wtf?

As for me my main news involves going to see Spamalot on Broadway *yay* missing gum trees like mad (see also missing Doctor Who rather madly).

Date: 2007-02-05 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendymr.livejournal.com
Oh, welcome back! I was wondering where you were and whether gaming had swallowed you completely. T&C's missed you, I know.

Birthday in two weeks? Snap! Though I see mine's a few days before yours.

As for amoral atheists... tell me again, is it atheism or religious fundamenalism that's responsible for most of the major conflicts in the world today? ;)

Date: 2007-02-05 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It's working, but I haven't seen any e-mails from you. Hmmm.

I think work was a bit more important than WoW, but it is up there ;)

Awwww.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh, I know of it.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Save kittens while setting cars on fire?

Ooh, sounds exciting. Going to Broadway is always a bit of a treat, I understand. But yeah, hear you on missing the Who.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:35 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] melliyna.livejournal.com
Agnostics, saving kittens while setting cars on fire *g* I think with the Doctor Who I would miss it less if I was in a place with Americans who knew what Doctor Who was (I have not met any yet, sadly).

But seriously - it's good to know you are still alive for your posts are fun/amusing/thought provoking.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh, I've watched T&C daily, deleting OT stuff and telling people to use lj-cuts. So haven't been absent from there as such.

We share birthday month, huh?

I say it's good old-fashioned human asshattery with that ever-present greed and powerlust.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I must admit the aftermath of it has rather slipped me by. I just remember the pictures from it, particulary of one twenty-something chick. Just something in her look that haunted me. But that the law gets abused doesn't exactly surprise me. Britain, like many other European countries, have issues to weed out.

Hoolihanism is a peculiar phenomenon. In the UK it's definitely tied to class issues, though, something the US doesn't have in the same historical way.

Date: 2007-02-05 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mademoisellenon.livejournal.com
Errr...camilla[dot]sandman@gmail.com, right? My new e-mail is annabolina@gmail.com so maybe that's why it hasn't been going through. I e-mailed you 3 times, I think, or was it 4? *so not a stalker, mind you!*

Besides, I never see you on-line either. I need you to teach me some Norwegian so I can understand my Nemi calendar.
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