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When CSI airs an episode with a ship scene in it, how do you think fandom reacts?

With sanity? With moderate sanity and a few flying off the handle? With moderate batshittery? With oh-gods-the-mods-have-died-unmoderated batshittery? By getting drunk? Or just ARGH WORMS IN THE BRAIN FROM READING GET ME ALCOHOL

You may vote after following the evidence. (Spoilers for the episode that just aired in the US if you haven't seen it.)

The ever predictable puke:
that's okay. i didn't want to digest that pizza from dinner anyway.

You ain't no queen without a man:
sarah is so the queen because she has grissom and last time i checked catherine is divorced and single.

Has my ship sailed?:
Is there any chance for Gil and Cath to have a romantic relation ship or i'm I just dreaming.
I dont want Gil and Sara it's to wierd they don't see to be the right couple there to much alike I want him to be with Cath and I'll stick with it for ever
.

I SEE LESBIANS:
I don't mean to offend anyone (really I don't! and like I've stated here before I know it's not politcally correct and many are uncomfortable talking about it directly, but I just don't think Jorja is believable playing a heterosexual woman.
Like I've stated here before, I don't think that all gay/lesbian (or rumored to be) actors are not believable in straight roles. To me though and this is just MY OPINION, I have never/can never believe that Jorja/Sara would be in a romantic relationship with a manly heterosexual guy like Billy/Grissom.


GSR is just all about the taudry sex:
I thought he shaving scene was stupid and pointless it served no purpose and did not advance any plot .  It was just more pandering to a low level audience who cares more about cheap taudry sex that the real purpose of the show.  folks who want this crap should go to GA or any of the day time  soaps. Garbage like this is ruining the show and it is showing in the ratings.   time to move on   let Grissom get over his mid life crisis and get back to being an ethical scientist!

... But Grissom is actually impotent...?:
the fact that he has given up on the principle of being ethical to be with someone,  takes away his potence. His strenght comes from his ability to do the right thing and getting involved with a person who works for you shows a lack of morals and integrity.   for Grissom losing those is to lose all

Gil would totally not do what Billy did:
Ah, Billy, how could you have fallen so low? You've landed in the land of cheeze and there are no ladders out. You, who have nearly destroyed my tv with movie love scene flash fires, allowing your character to have this sad, tacked-on, chemistryless relationsh*t. Gil, who was intelligent, independent, fun and serious, sexy and controlled, and so much more, is gone having been replaced by a wuss in some sort of symbiotic relationship with a person more suited to be a sister than a love interest. When you read this shaving scene didn't you think "WTF? Gil would never allow this." At least I have folks on this forum that will warn me that if I need some cheese for my pizza all I have to do is place a dish in front of the tv and wait for your love(less) scene. I could feed the nation on piles up.

Woodsworth eat your heart out?:
They have loved for years
Some people say
Done things they
Shouldn't 'oughta
I think it's weird,it might be me
But I thought
She was his daughter


OMG sanity?:
People, can we just chill out insted of having pops at each other over fictional charactors?! Yeah, I love my ship (Purejoy btw lol) etc but at the end of the day thats what they are, fictional. Theres too much hate for Sara/Jorja from people who don't particularly like her or her with Grissom. What concerns me the most is that some people actually seem to hate Jorja, it crosses over into actually hating a real life person, which is so childish IMO. Now, i'm not a GSR fan in any way shape or form but still, let's just chill with the hatin' peeps. Theres my two cents lol! I don't mean to offend anyone just trying to bring a bit of peace! :)

Hate, I say, hate!
Catherine is not an annoying sibling for Grissom she is the best thing that ever happened to him. From the looks of it Sara is an annoying human being and should be fired from that show she only brings turmoil and hate to the other CSI'S. Eckley should have fired Sara in "nesting dolls" and I quote from Eckley
"She's a loose canon with a gun and she's all yours"
Probably the only right and honest thing Eckley said and I totally agree with him.
CATH IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GRILLOWS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If millions of viewers cry out and no one hears them, do they still make a sound?:
Hey CSI producers please stop the Grissom and Sara romance before you fall out of the top 10 ratings for good. Don't you see that millions of viewers cried out last year during those final two minutes of season six. I could not you could totally betray the character of Gil Grissom he would never have an affair with a SUBORDINATE he would never allow the reputation of his beloved lab for a role in the hay with Sara.
Everytime a scene with them comes on I switch to Grey's annatomny, because it makes me physcially sick to watch them(...)
There are millions of people who think this romance is wrong, the only thing I was trying to say is that they are no longer the number one show since they lost a lot of viewers who disagree with this romance.


[Poll #934797]

The wankshelter bar is of course open. Any orders?

Date: 2007-02-25 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spockette.livejournal.com
I have not clicked the links out of fear that my eyes would bleed, as the quoted text was bad enough, thank you. But oh dear god. I am so very glad that, despite watching the show, I never got into CSI fandom because it scares me really rather a lot. You are a brave, brave woman.

Date: 2007-02-25 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It wasn't always like this. Then again, HP fandom was also probably sane at one point. Probably.

Date: 2007-02-25 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colorstoobright.livejournal.com
Geez, so much bitterness over one scene, I believe? Or was there more? I haven't been too up-to-date with CSI as of late.

Date: 2007-02-25 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
One scene of 20 seconds. You'd think there was a whole episode devoted to Grissom and Sara shagging everywhere from the reactions, wouldn't you?

Date: 2007-02-25 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yattara.livejournal.com
Fandom scares me. No matter which one.

Date: 2007-02-25 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phdelicious.livejournal.com
I think there should be a ticky box for "by smoking crack" in there somewhere, because that's obviously what certain ppl have done.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Maybe some of them would be calmer if they did.

Date: 2007-02-25 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highwindpav.livejournal.com
The TWoP crowd seem to be reacting well...I think it's a fifty/fifty split on the disgust/squee. They were talking about the other 59.50 minutes of the episode for the most part...

I need to get to my TiVo and see what the big deal is.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Pfft! That's wasn't 59.50 minutes of other stuff. You forgot to subtract the commercials :P

Date: 2007-02-25 04:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] glinda-penguin.livejournal.com
Even the links quotes made my brain shut down...

*holds glass out pleadingly*

Date: 2007-02-25 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
*fills it up without comment*

Date: 2007-02-25 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardust-rain.livejournal.com
What, no "oh fuck even the mods have gone batshit" option? D:

I'm kinda unfamiliar with the CSI fandom, but I know general fandom behaviour when it comes to ships. And it is SCARY. So unmoded batshittery is my prediction.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I thought mods only went meglomaniac?

Fandom is fandom alike, me thinks. Scary as that can be.

Date: 2007-02-25 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenbachand.livejournal.com
I chose the getting drunk option, as it could apply to both sides reactions.

I know I was full of squee about it. :)

I love how so many people can't differentiate between actors & characters.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
:P Fangirl.

Acting is so confuing for reality, innit?

Date: 2007-02-25 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] --kali--.livejournal.com
And I thought I mixed in some scary fandoms. But that is erm, impressive.

p.s. your icon rocks.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
f_w brings many shiny icons indeed.

Date: 2007-02-25 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawning-star.livejournal.com
The bar is open, right? *holds out glass*

Date: 2007-02-25 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Would I keep the bar closed on occasions of shipping madness?

I shall keep the drinks coming. With little umbrellas in them.

Date: 2007-02-25 06:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
The poem killed me.

Date: 2007-02-25 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idreamedmusic.livejournal.com
Me too, bwahahaa. Though 1 racing cockroach out of five for coming up with the "'oughta - daughter" rhyme.

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Date: 2007-02-25 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweill.livejournal.com
Oy.
Just... oy.
People are scary. Or as the man said (and I hear at my store) People are strange.
Bartender? Make mine a double.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yes, ma'am.

Date: 2007-02-25 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wanlorn.livejournal.com
Fandom makes me sad :-(

Date: 2007-02-25 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It helps to laugh at it, trust me.

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Date: 2007-02-25 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idreamedmusic.livejournal.com
Is there any chance for Gil and Cath to have a romantic relation ship or i'm I just dreaming.
Ummm... LOL!

Echoing comment #1, you are brave for looking through all this batshit.
And look, me go all 'shipper on ya!

Date: 2007-02-25 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You always make icons terribly shiny, you icon vixen you.

*tries to resist temptation to get one*

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Date: 2007-02-25 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ericasj.livejournal.com
I haven't watched the episode yet, so really, no comment. lol. But you were on the CBS board! I think it had become shithole #1 to me and I gave up that place within the first week of its existence.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Reading some of the stuff there is a bit like poking sharp fishsticks with hot tuna on them into my brain. The Wiki thing is getting rather... well, rather as well.

WHY FANDOM WHY.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wintergreen126.livejournal.com
something strong. really strong. because i think the red wine i have in my room isn't going to cut it.

however, there seems to have been a glimmer of sanity this time...

Date: 2007-02-26 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
There might be hope. But still, I think I better keep the aquavit nice and ready and strong.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aka-paloma.livejournal.com
That just goes to show you how out of the fandom (especially CSI's) loop I am. Thank god!!!!! When I read this: "When CSI airs an episode with a ship scene in it, how do you think fandom reacts?" I thought you were refering to a scene that used actual ships. You know, the kind that float on water and travel from port to port. ::basks in blissful naivete::

Although, I'd happily join you all for drinks at the wankshelter bar. It's a gloomy rainy Sunday here and I could use a bellini or three.

Date: 2007-02-26 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Hehehehe. CSI fandom is so much about the shipping, some people seem to be surprised when 'ship' is actually used in the context of a thing that goes on water.

Bugger. It's a snowy gloomy Monday here.

Date: 2007-02-25 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crusherbevdr.livejournal.com
I've given up reading the ship stuff. It makes my brain hurt too bad.

GSR is canon. That's a fact. I won't argue it.

It seems like some of the GSR fans though don't even like the fact that us G/C shippers can still live in a fantasy world. Its their way or no way.

I know there are sane GSR shippers out there, just as there are sane G/C shippers. They're just hard to find.

Date: 2007-02-26 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I think the whole of fandom is a bit poisoned by now, really. Really, really anti-GSR people get into such a crusade about it that GSR fans get very loud about it, and GSR fans get so very loud about it that anti-GSR people feel like crusading. And so it goes on. People can be lovely and sane and everything, but you do get affected by what goes on around, you know?

Date: 2007-02-26 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mage-of-time.livejournal.com
I haven't been watching this season of CSI yet (DVDs are mad love) but from what I've read... This seems as bad as the Ron/Hermione-Harry/Hermione wank. Wow. As much as it's amazing and lovely and the best crime drama out there, it's a show, people. Nothing to kill kittens over.

Date: 2007-02-26 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
We haven't had slavery get involved, though. Or had a MissScribe-like incident.

Yet.

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Eh...

Date: 2007-02-26 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anybodybutsara.livejournal.com
I was too busy watching Denny & Izzie to get all wigged out over the shaving scene...

And when I finally bothered to watch it...Eh...Whatever...

ABS;)

Re: Eh...

Date: 2007-02-26 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Denny and Izzie never much clicked with me, so... Tates vary.

Re: Eh...

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Date: 2007-02-26 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spotts1701.livejournal.com
Buh...guh...

*curls into fetal ball* Happy place...happy place...happy place...

Date: 2007-02-26 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturnianali8r.livejournal.com
Get my brain away from that poem. Some people have way too much time to make poems like that.

added you.

Date: 2007-02-26 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaoskiwi.livejournal.com
hi there, i added you to my friends list. hope ypu don't mind. i read your lotr- fan fiction and immensly enjoy your lj-entries.
again, i hope you do not mind.
best wishes,
chaoskiwi :-)

Re: added you.

Date: 2007-02-26 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Not at all - as it says in an entry above, people can friend all they like. My LotR days were a while ago, though. But have some welcome chocolate either way ;)

while you're at the subject...

Date: 2007-02-27 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaoskiwi.livejournal.com
*munches your nice welcome choclate*
you know, every know and then i watch CSI , and i wonder , as you're in this fandom , defending good fic, if you could give me some tips regarding ff's in this fandom. maybe a fic you enjoy as well? just if you can spare a minute.
have a great day!
ckiwi

Date: 2007-02-27 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessickuh.livejournal.com
Aint nothing wrong with taudry GSR sex.

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