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The plagiarism cases I was worried Thalia was lying about?

She was

Great. Fabelous. I feel like shit. She's just trivialised a shitty experience I've been through several times. The really shitty, shitty part is that her first plagiarism case - excuse me, hoax - was just after I had been plagiarised - so did she do it because she saw I got attention? Did she actually think it's fun having your stories ripped off?

I'm going to have to consider taking her off the OFUM list now. I shall talk to my fellow moderators before doing anything, but I'm ready to toss her the hell off my list.

Bugger it. Bugger, bugger, bugger.

ETA: I've decided to let the OFUM list itself decide if she stays or not. We'll see what they say, I suppose.

Date: 2003-10-30 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megpie71.livejournal.com
If it was my option (which it isn't) I wouldn't kick her off the list. She's a drama queen, and she'll use that to play "poor little me". I'd just leave her on there, and let her take the lumps. In fact, I'd damn well make her stay. But then again, I'm a vicious bitch, and I believe in getting people to lie in the beds they've made for themselves.

But it's your decision, not mine.

Date: 2003-10-30 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] pipibluestockin
I would keep her on the list - you have the measure of her now.

Following the "drama" of the last week or so has been disturbing. That someone would continually cry wolf - even more so.

Date: 2003-10-30 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurelin-kit.livejournal.com
I'm sorry. This must feel really, really awful. Being plagiarised is no joke. I wish this didn't have to happen.

Date: 2003-10-30 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pknight.livejournal.com
Has anyone reported Thalia to LJ Drama? 'Cause she's the perfect candidate for it. I've seen stuff a lot less wank-y than her on there.

Date: 2003-10-30 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
But I will not have my list become a warzone between those who want to give Thalia lumbs and those who don't. It'll just give me a bigger headache...

Anyway, I've made my decision. I'm letting the people on the list decide. She lied to the list, so that's how it'll be.

Date: 2003-10-30 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah.

BTW, your LJ name amuses me greatly, especially since I grew up with the writings of Astrid Lindgren.

Date: 2003-10-30 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I'm feeling kinda crappy, yeah. But I'll get over it.

Date: 2003-10-30 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Not as far as I know, no. Not sure if anyone's in the mood to do it.

Date: 2003-10-30 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aralanthiriel.livejournal.com
Damn. Sorry to hear this Cam. I know you didn't want that to be true, especially considering how much support you and the OFUM/PPC lists gave her on the whole plagiarism issue, and how your work had been stolen too. Y'know, if she's causing in-fighting on the OFUM list, maybe an option is to just tell them to take it off-line or to another forum. It's still your list, and if a discussion is just causing hostility, as a mod, you have the right to stop that discussion.

Date: 2003-10-30 08:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ladyiapetus
Dunno how well reporting her to LJDrama would wash. She was reported earlier to [livejournal.com profile] mock_the_stupid, and suggestions to flame her and such were quickly shot down.

Date: 2003-10-30 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maureenlycaon.livejournal.com
Shit. Shit, shit, shit.

That's the only thing I can think of to say.

Date: 2003-10-30 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irian.livejournal.com
I'm sorry. I went to her journal and left an encouraging comment because both you and gehayi were vouching for her... I feel stupid, but since I didn't know Thalia before this, what I'm feeling should be nothing compared to how you and gehayi must feel right now. Plagiarism in all forms ids terrible, but some people actually view being plagirized as a compliment.

Date: 2003-10-31 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] pipibluestockin
Thank you.

Date: 2003-10-31 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
I loved the Pippi Longstocking books. Still do.

Date: 2003-10-31 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
Also, Talia, or whatever the hell his, her or its real name is, has deleted all the Eliana posts.

Date: 2003-10-31 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
You know, I just sent you this whole email from the OFUM list that definitely had a charitable thing going for it. I'm not feeling quite so charitable anymore. Her actions were just so pathetic and wrong. That chick is seriously screwed up. I get the feeling she's enjoying this little drama she's started.

Obviously, my opinion as expressed in the email remains the same. I'm just so sorry you have to deal with all of this.

Date: 2003-10-31 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Thanks.

And yeah, I can at least keep the OFUM list from going vicious over this issue.

Date: 2003-10-31 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
*echoes that*

Date: 2003-10-31 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Plagiarism in all forms ids terrible, but some people actually view being plagirized as a compliment.

That's the standard plagiariser's cry - 'you should take it as a compliment!'.

Yeah, I think I won't.

But I guess being plagiarised also is a way of getting attention, and Thalia saw it that way.

Date: 2003-10-31 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Thank you.

And yeah, the problem with attention-seekers is often they'll enjoy any kind of it - and this has certainly led to even more attention.

Date: 2003-11-01 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irian.livejournal.com
But I guess being plagiarised also is a way of getting attention, and Thalia saw it that way.

While I understand the need for a teenager (if she really is one) to be noticed, she really shouldn't have dragged others into the muck with her. And I honestly *cannot* see how having something you created *stolen* is supposed to be a compliment...

Date: 2003-11-02 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In no position to defend anyone, but I think that Thalia wasn't really thinking about it when she did it. Compulsive lying, it's a bit like being drunk or something. *shrug* Not sure that would make you feel any better, but...

Well...

Date: 2003-11-03 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackpearl500.livejournal.com
I sort of printed all the Elaina posts.

I like having hard copies of things. I don't know what I should with it. Burn it maybe?

It may sound cheesy...

Date: 2003-11-03 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackpearl500.livejournal.com
But I've always found it better to feel stupid with someone else than to feel stupid by myself. Since everyone feels stupid for buying this lj drama (or for not calling Talia on it earlier) I suppose that makes things a little bit easier....

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