What you don't want to wake to and how Firefly is all about rape apparently (w/plans and meme)

[misscam]

Hope you all enjoyed your holiday/weekend - and didn't get snowed to despair like I did. Argh, weathersgods. Argh.

Bad weather seems also to have lead to another fatal building collapse after a landslide. Weather, not to be trifled with. (I see it made BBC too..)

Can you imagine waking up at 3 a.m by the building 'jumping' and then collapsing on you? Holy shit. Latest is that there's a gas-fuelled fire going and five people are feared dead.

Live while you can, because there are no guarantees. Yowza.

I see half my flist are talking about A Rapist's View of the World: Joss Whedon and Firefly and... Yeah. I'll let you form your own mind up. (People are rather angry at it here.) I will however say one thing - speaking as one who has actually had experience with rape, can people bloody well stop using stupid metaphores with it already? It's dragged into so much stupid and diluted so much it makes me grit my teeth. You know what is exactly like rape? Rape. You know what isn't like rape? Most things in life. YA RLY.

GAHRGH.

Plans for the week:
- Explore patch 2.4 for WoW. Yay Sunwell. Yay killing Kael for good. Yay new loot.
- Cheer my team to victory in the first football match of the season. That's right. Tippeligaen 2008 is here! Men! Balls! Sunday!
- Finish But For Hope (or How Sex Didn't Heal Rose, but Life Might) finally.
- Plot holiday of awesome for falena84's visit.
- Decide on a new layout - currently, I'm thinking about a "Complicated is the whole point" one with various ships and stuff I have, though WoW is also a strong contender.
- Kill the snow just with my Glare of Hate and Spring Lust. Give me spring and biking conditions, dammit!

A fannish meme:
You know you have television/films/books/music/fanfiction you're ashamed to admit to liking. Confess!

I admit I have watched... The Bachelor. Several seasons. And kinda enjoyed it in a train-wreck-omg-what sort of way. Help.

You may now hit me with a clam.

Comments

[skywardprodigal.livejournal.com]

You know what is exactly like rape? Rape. You know what isn't like rape? Most things in life.

Agreed.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Rape gets used in so many stupid fandom arguments it should be banned from usage until further notice, sheesh.

Come to think of it, same for nazism and politics...

[colorstoobright.livejournal.com]

I'm waiting for that Rape/Firefly thing to show up on Fandom Wank. It should show up soon, right?

I admit I have watched... The Bachelor. Several seasons. And kinda enjoyed it in a train-wreck-omg-what sort of way. Help.
I DID THAT FOR ONE SEASON. The one guy was just so hot, ahsfjkafasf. Now I am so tempted to watch the new season on TV here... it's a trainwreck you cannot pull away from.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Possibly. I certainly wouldn't be suprised if it made a showing, but then again, it might be deemed not!funny.

Who was the dude? I must admit I most of the time find the men rather bland, it's just something hysterically funny about "the last rose of the evening DUMDUMDUM".

re: firefly thingy-ma-bobber

[aelie-baby.livejournal.com]

I can't decide whether or not it's the lack of sleep or the sheer fallacy of her arguments that is making me fall out of my chair laughing.

Just... gah. People make brainz hurt.

[colorstoobright.livejournal.com]

He was a doctor dude named Travis and he was SOHOTOMG (at least for me... I have weird taste in men). He picked a girl who lived two blocks away from him, no joke. It was hilarious. I love trashy love reality shows like this, it's FUN.

*icon love*

[lotus79.livejournal.com]

You know you have television/films/books/music/fanfiction you're ashamed to admit to liking. Confess!

Neighbours. Occasionally. Not recently, though.

Also, I have actually got somewhat hooked on So You Think You Can Dance (AU version) since I started taping it for my Dance classes.

Music... Darren Hayes.

Films... the Mists of Avalon. It was godawful but I couldn't stop replaying it

Fanfiction... too many to count. Sometimes when there's no good stuff for a pairing you love and so you just have to read the bad stuff. Yeah.

Books... Virginia Andrews' older stuff. (You know, the ones she actually wrote)

[yattara.livejournal.com]

What a load of hooey about Firefly, blargh.

[smtfhw.livejournal.com]

I see half my flist are talking about A Rapist's View of the World: Joss Whedon and Firefly and... Yeah. I'll let you form your own mind up. (People are rather angry at it here.)

I'm not so much angry as baffled and befuddled by her... What planet is this woman coming from?

[falena]

Um. The Firefly meta left me speechless.
I know there's no right way of reading a text, perception is subjective and our own experiences colour our way of seeing the world and all that jazz, but seriously the things the OP read in my beloved Firefly are so far off from mine that they almost make me doubtmy ability to understand things.

The rape metaphor is mind-boggling and absolutely poor taste.


Plot holiday of awesome

Yay!

Do not book anything yet, though, because a job sort of fell out of the sky right into my lap which means all my summer plans are on hold, until I find out exactly my working schedule for the next six months.

I don't know if I'm meant to be happy for the job or sad that I've been robbed of my last long summer as a student. :/

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Last dude that was on here was some marine doctor dude. That him?

I enjoy some good trash now and then. Sometimes, all I want my brain to do is not!think and laugh. It's a good show for that.

Re: firefly thingy-ma-bobber

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I admit some of her arguments rather made my brain go 'bzzz FATAL ERROR REBOOT REBOOT REEEEEBOOOOOOT'.

Seriously, all het sex is like rape? WTF? FAIL TRY AGAIN.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I prefer the 'Strictly' version, I admit. Celebrities dancing ballroom and often failing? Good times all around.

Did that movie have Arthur shag it with his sister or some such? A faint bell rings.

I used to read lots of bad fic. Now I play WoW. Um, yay?

[rivrea.livejournal.com]

While there are some legitimate points buried in the Firefly post and the comments on that entry (the way prostitution is often glamourised on TV or the way in which strength is automatically equated with violence), it still makes me want to bash my head against the wall.

Defining 'rape' so broadly and vaguely empties it out of all meaning and is an insult to women who have suffered through sexual abuse. And I 'love' the fact that radical separatist feminists dismiss the opinions of other women who might not agree with their views as false consciousness instilled by male supremacy. Yeah, way to go there and foster a feeling of sisterhood.

[vulgarweed.livejournal.com]

I keep seeing links to that popping up. It's like a really good trainwreck.

Dear radical feminists: Plz to stop trivializing rape, kthnxbai.

But the point where I couldn't even read it for the lulz anymore was that bit about white men and women of color blah blah blah. Aside from the personal gut response of OH NO YOU DID NOT JUST DIS MY FAMILY BITCH there's this...is it just me or did she bend so far backwards to be anti-racist she came all the way around to being a BIG DAMN RACIST?

But I will not allow comments that are insulting, woman-hating or potentially silencing of women."

Ah, I see. It's potentially silencing women she doesn't like. Actually silencing women who disagree with her is A-OK.

[skybound2]

I'm DESPERATELY trying NOT to click on that link right now. As I am at work, and I am VERY afraid that my head will implode. *must resist clicking*

As for the meme: Movie I'm ashamed to admit I like? The Thing Called Love with River Phoenix, Samantha Mathis, and Sandra Bollock. It's silly, and corny, and features lots of country music and line dancing, and River's mumbled acting, but I do so adore it *sigh*

You may now hit me with a clam. What if I don't wanna?

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Never watched Firefly much, so can't really opine greatly on that, but some of her general statements just made me want to smack my brain against a whale.

[skywardprodigal.livejournal.com]

I won't deal with it.

I mean, I'd already hit my limit when someone described milking cows as rape.

That's when I was ready to reach through my scream and throttle someone. But then, that was before I actually experienced throttling, so now I just want to leave them alone.

[yattara.livejournal.com]

She struck me as someone who watches stuff just to confirm her own opinions.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

The human ability to form such radically different POVs about the same world never ceases to amaze, really.

[lotus79.livejournal.com]

Did that movie have Arthur shag it with his sister or some such? A faint bell rings.

Yup, it did. And then she had his baby and the baby grew up and killed him. You may have also read the book? (Book is awesome, that's why I kept watching the movie. Movie was dodgy as hell)

And I read a bit of that Firefly thing. Well, I skimmed the comments; the thing itself was way tl;dr. She also claims to have strong evidence that Josh Whedon rapes his wife, and says she thinks all male-initiated sex is rape by definition. WTF?

[visp.livejournal.com]

That Firefly rant was just plain stupid. I liked the "Zoe is Black and her husband is white, so he's a dirty rapist" bit the best.

[rivrea.livejournal.com]

But after reading all the comments in the post you linked to, over at fireflyfans, I'm now also angry at every user who implied there that this is somehow representative of feminism in general (which is clearly an icky thing that consists only of foaming at the mouth and misandry). It's a lose-lose situation for my blood pressure.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I must admit hardcore creationists just makes me wonder soemtimes if they're just seeing something I'm not. Then I realise it's rather that they're not, since the Earth is not 6000 years old KTHXBAI.

The rape metaphor did not land well with me, as you can imagine. Especially her remarks about Joss Whendon's wife. Why the hell do so many self-proclaimed feminists get so ugly about women? It's not on.

Oooh - well, congrats, and I'll just plan and not book, then. I'm mainly just planning time-wise, so fear not, nothing is in stone yet.

And know the feeling - I got awesome job just as I was really enjoying time off and had been looking forward to two more weeks. But ah well, sometimes opportunity knocks and you just have to answer in your bikini.

[smtfhw.livejournal.com]

I think I'm most baffled by her apparent claim to be a lesbian and a feminist. She may well be by her lights, but that presumably means I'm not. Damn! I've been wrong about myself all these years!