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So, one of the reasons for a bit of gloom as alluded to in previous posts is that I am leaving my current job and my last day is Friday. This Friday. Now, I am really looking forward to a bit of holiday before I start the new one and all that, but I've grown very fond of people here and it's been an awesome time and one of the better places I've worked, so I'm feeling sad about it.

If you catch me being a bit blah this week, there's a large chunk of the reason. Changes are good, but changes are also really depressing, you know? They're ordering cakes for me and having a goodbye party and everyone's actually genuinely sad I'm leaving and it's really a bit emotional. I can't think about it, I'll cry. Wah.

On that philosophical bombshell, we wander into fandom matters of varying importance. Yarr.

From my flist: A blog post from a fan of David Tennant going to a Hamlet showing and witnessing a bit of fan-mobbing after. I read that and rather winced. Now, I freely admit to eyeing and enjoying males I find attractive and being a non-ashamed fan of my various likes, but... Oi. Fans and fame are also a scary things, which I've had a passing glimpse into via my father and yeah, oi :(

The of course I read this and sort of *headdesk*ed.

WHUT the fanfic edition. Erm. What?

This secret at [livejournal.com profile] fandomsecrets made me blink a bit. Now, I find Adama/Roslin quite hot and sweet and all (duh), but I'm not quite seeing the hotness with pregnancy. Then again, I don't get the babyfic thing at all. One of these days I'll have to write one just for that reason. (Not necessarily a A/R one. I did consider a human!Doctor/Rose one just for the chance to play with being mostly human, but eh well.)

Got recced at [livejournal.com profile] calufrax for a really old Doctor Who story of mine, which felt weird. Anyone else feel a bit disconnected to older stories? Guess it's because I don't remember the emotional investement and time spent writing it anymore. Feels a bit silly rather wanting comments on newer stuff, but then, I am frequently silly.

Also from the flist:
YOU LIGHT UP MY LIFE MEME // MY THREAD !

In the life and Norway:

- Python kills zookeeper. Okay, pythons are not as lethal as vemonous snakes, but would you let out a three-metre python?

- An article on an endangered whale species gets comments like this gem: The right whale lacks the capability to get out the way of ships, likes to loll around at the surface and essentially takes up space in the ocean. If you believe in survival of the fittest, then you should also agree that the right whale isn’t it. Save something else. I like to call that 'spot five fails', and *why* is this person taking up space in my gene pool?

- Well-known attorny admits to shooting at asylum centre where a 16-year-old aylum seeker was severly injured. Judging by the fact that he was also arrested for threatning passerbys at a motorcycle gathering with a knife, he does seem a bit unhinged. Is it bad of me hoping that is the motivation rather than racism? We haven't had a lot of racially motivated violence in Norway and in my naive hope, I was kinda wishing we could keep it so.

- Troubles in the US also effects Norway's oil fund. But I see it still grew to USD 370.8 billion - can I get a cha-ching?

- Norway's first war crime trial since the aftermath of WWII. Several tricky issues in there, including the fact that the guy wasn't a Norwegian citizen at the time of these alleged crimes and that they happened at a time Norway didn't have the laws he's now been tried after. Hmm.

Big cleaning project today. Funny how soon-arriving guests (in this case [livejournal.com profile] falena84) brings out the vanity and vacuum cleaner like nothing else, heh. Maybe that'll distract me from impending emotional wah-ness.

Anything up with you?

Date: 2008-08-27 12:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
I'm terrible at adjusting to change myself, so I got nothing to offer except *huuuugs*

I just missed a call on my mobile and it turns out it's work. They're probably trying to contact me see if I'm available to teach the autumn classes...I've decided I'm not going to call them back and I'm going to pretend I am in Norway already if they call again because otherwise I'll get antsy and I don't want the thought nagging at the back of my mind during my holiday.

Would you please stop fussing about the house because I'm coming? I swear I'm the most laidback, unfussy guest ever. I probably wouldn't notice if you had a monster dustbunny lurking in your sitting room anyway.

Date: 2008-08-27 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
In typical me fashion I've just not thought much about the leaving bit on purpose and thus it's suddenly smacked me in the face now. I've known about it a while, but jeez does time ever fly and suddenly it's now and I realise I really like people here.

Hehe. Put up a new message on your voice mail thing claiming you're in Norway. I did when I was in Italy.

Would you please stop fussing about the house because I'm coming?

No.

Date: 2008-08-27 12:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
I've just not thought much about the leaving bit on purpose
I do that a lot. Heh.

Maybe you can try and keep in touch with some of the people you like at least?

I never use voicemail. I don't even know how to turn it on. LOL. I still fail at technology.

Annoying perfectionist.

Date: 2008-08-27 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah, I got some of them as friends on Facebook even. But still, not the same as seeing them each day and having jokes about the stuff you're working on and all that. Blah, blah, ignore me, I can has emo.

You don't know how to work voicemail? Jeez, it's easy like the next thing and I always let calls I don't want to take go to mine. Easy way to get a message and avoid the chit-chat.

It's called common hospitality, Italian girl.

Date: 2008-08-27 01:57 pm (UTC)
falena: illustration of a blue and grey moth against a white background (Default)
From: [personal profile] falena
*uses emo icon*

Okay I just spent 15 minutes on the Vodafone website to work out how to turn on my voicemail. And I did. Go me!
I turned it off again, though. :P

It's called turning your guest paranoid because she will make a mess in that tidy and neat house in zero time.

Date: 2008-08-27 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You're a very silly person, you know. :P

Date: 2008-08-27 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ice-feather.livejournal.com
I've been a fan of David's since the original airing of POTW (just that tiny, tiny scene at the end was enough to hook me) and it's actually been quite uncomfortable watching his rise to fame over the last three years. There are too many fans, autograph hounds, and celebrity chasers who just have no idea how to behave . I've witnessed and heard of some awful behavior, from gawpers blocking John Barrowman's car at Milton Keynes this May, to autograph dealers treating John Simm as their own personal cash machine...and now David not even being able to attend a West End theatre without being treated like a free-for-all piece of meat by the general public.

It's really disappointing that people feel it's okay to be like this, and as someone who likes to meet actors because I'm a genuine fan and enjoy being able to let someone I've admired know I appreciate their work, I find it really embarrassing when people around me behave so poorly.

Date: 2008-08-27 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah, I like him too in what I've seen him in and find him attractive in the way I do like Scots (rawr), but I don't know, some of it seems a bit overboard and hysteria. Not that I want to get moralising, but sometimes, it's nice to be a little restrained too.

I suspect some of this is the way crowds wind itself up - people who are nice one-on-one go a bit mad in the company of others at times.

Date: 2008-08-27 12:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] marcasite.livejournal.com
I wish you all the best as you transition out of this current job into whatever comes next. I recently left a position I loved very much and found the transition hard but fruitful. I do hope that all works well for you.

I hope you have a lovely visit with lots of fun times.

And ugh, to the DT fangirling. It really is kinda of embarassing and you have to feel bad for the guy.

Date: 2008-08-27 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
See, I'm actually looking a bit forward to what's to come - I think that's why I didn't realise how much I'd miss people here until it was upon me, because I was making exciting plans for stuff ahead. I think it will be good, but I'll still miss this heaps and life is complicated and evil.

Yeah, I mean people might say he chose to take the part, but that doesn't mean people have to choose to be without decency in fan behaviour, FFS.

Date: 2008-08-27 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zinke.livejournal.com
My neck hurts from all the nodding I've been doing while reading your post. Both the post at T&C and TL had me scratching my head this morning. And I have to admit that the blog story about Tennant doesn't surprise me in the least. He's been having a rough time of it while in Stratford: getting mobbed anywhere and everywhere. He didn't even come out the proper stage door the night we were there, and I don't blame him for it. I'd want to hide sometimes, too.

And A/R babyfic? This is something that has never made much sense to me. The only babyfic for this pairing that I've read and enjoyed is Olga Luthien's 'If not, Winter". Babyfic just isn't 'them' if that makes any sense.

Date: 2008-08-27 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I have no idea what that fanifc thing even was. Completely baffling.

Yeah, and considering he's just done a fairly draining part (much as I hate Hamlet the play, I can still recognise it takes a lot of effort mentally and physically to play it sincere) I can't blame him from wanting to hide at all. I would just want to go to bed after something like that.

Makes total sense to me, given their ages and her cancer now too. I mean, one might do it well in an AU, but the author would have to be good to sell me on it.

But tastes varies and we all have our kinks.

Date: 2008-08-27 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bex245.livejournal.com
*hugs* Sorry you feel all blah about your work! =/
Try to think positively though, about your new job. Chance to meet new people and there's new opportunities and all that. :)

I think I'm kinda with you on the pregnancy fic thing. idk. I can only think of one that I really loved with that kind of story.

Date: 2008-08-27 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I feel blah about leaving - I like my work. Mostly. When not having to do overtime, heh. But yeah, I am positive about what's to come, but it's still always sad to leave something you like.

Tates do vary, but babyfics have never done it for me. If I do like them, it's in spite of it rather than because of it, when the author just writes damn well.

Date: 2008-08-27 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bex245.livejournal.com
but it's still always sad to leave something you like.

Yeah, obviously. I have a similiar thing with my schools at the moment. I'm starting a new school in September and even though I know it's the right choice for me to move and I'm sure I'll love it there, it's still sad to be leaving my old school. I think mostly I'll miss the familiarity, you know? Knowing everyone, and everywhere and how things work and all that. idk.

If I do like them, it's in spite of it rather than because of it, when the author just writes damn well.

Yes! I'm exactly the same!!

Date: 2008-08-27 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yes. And the new is the unknown still - it'll probably be great, but you just don't know yet and humans are creatures of habit.

Date: 2008-08-27 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denorios.livejournal.com
I saw a whole host of people gathered at the stage door after Hamlet and I felt really sorry for David. My stance re: celebs has always been 'how would I feel?' I wouldn't want to have people mobbing me in the street, taking up all my time, interrupting me with friends or acquaintances, making small things like grocery shopping a huge deal. And after I'd been peforming on stage for nigh-on four hours in a demanding play like Hamlet, the last thing I'd want to do is sign autographs and smile and pose for photographs. Because people expect friendliness and personal attention as their due, and you know just if David has one bad day, misses one person out, doesn't smile for one photo, he'll be castigated to the heavens. Poor guy.

So yeah, I didn't go to the stage door. It was close to midnight, let the poor guy go home!

Date: 2008-08-27 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yes, because (some of) the fans feel he 'owes' them - because of the emotional investment they have into it. Can get quite ugly, really.

Good on you :D

Date: 2008-08-27 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheesygirl.livejournal.com
Poor DT. I love that he's such a great success and all, but I hate that the whole celebrity crap has to go with it. I really would like for him to do more theater work as that's what he loves to do most. But if future roles are going to carry all this nonsense with it? I don't want it to take the joy out of it for him.

It's a shame that he can't sit down and have a drink and a chat with a few genuine, sensible fans like that woman did with "Horatio". I'm sure he'd love that. But all the screaming and pushing from fair weather fans (and I think that's just what many of them are--they'll be screaming and pushing at whoever is the Next Big Thing when he/she comes on the scene), no way.

Date: 2008-08-27 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Perhaps after a new Doctor comes, he'll be let more in peace as media attention will be less too.

Starting out in theatre ensures it rather stays in your blood for the rest of your career, really.

Date: 2008-08-27 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheesygirl.livejournal.com
Perhaps after a new Doctor comes, he'll be let more in peace as media attention will be less too.

And then these so-called "fans" will be pissed at him for leaving Doctor Who. Just because the man performs for others does not make him their slave! Anyway, he's so much more than the Doctor and there are still lots of other roles for him to tackle. I look forward to them all.

Date: 2008-08-27 01:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seariderfalcon
I've never understood how some people can go that nuts in the presence of a celebrity. How are they not embarrassed for themselves? But then personally, I'd be too shy to walk up to someone I was a fan of just to say "thank you" outside the setting of a con. I'd be too worried I might bother him/her to show up at a stage door or stop one on the street.

As for A/R babyfic, somewhere in my LJ there's an entry from a few years ago where I bemoaned the fact that I actually found one (and it really was terrible in every way imaginable). There's only been two I've come across since then that I genuinely liked, the aforementioned "If Not, Winter" and nnaylime's "Unexpected".

Date: 2008-08-27 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
We all got different standards - I'm a bit like you though, I feel really awkward approaching people like that. But in a crowd of others, I thik it's easier to act a certain way. You feel egged on a bit, I think.

Hah, now you're just making me want to try it for the heck of it. But yeah, it's not the most obvious couple for it and hard to do well in general, really. Most babyfics I've read go too far in one direction or another.

Date: 2008-08-27 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jvgymnast.livejournal.com
Out of curiosity, why the job change?

Date: 2008-08-27 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Because I originally took it to fill in for someone on maternity leave. The leave is over, so... I've known that for a while, but you do get attached to places when you're there over a year.

Date: 2008-08-27 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siraj.livejournal.com
I know you explained that you (Norway) can't sell your oil to us due to the economic impact... but I still wish you could... at least it's below $4 a gallon...

Also, if the laws weren't in place at the time of the crime, then he can't be charged with it. Isn't that charging him after the fact, or some legalese term along those lines?

Date: 2008-08-27 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymako71.livejournal.com
The whole shite with the fangirls going 'OMG! DT!" is one of the reasons ( the other being I is broke) that I decided against the trip to the UK to see any Shakespeare...I feel so bad for him that he has to suffer that night in and night out...the poor bugger.

I also know the stalker crowd are going en masse to one of the shows too. I'd tip off the theatre about em and laugh when they get the understudy instead...alas I don't know the date, or I'd be sorely tempted.

Date: 2008-08-27 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denara.livejournal.com
Oh god, that's the thing I dread the most about seeing Hamlet... I really really hope it's not my night. I'm not planning on going to the stage door, but I just don't even want those types in the same theatre as me.

Date: 2008-08-27 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymako71.livejournal.com
If I'm not mistaken it isn't until October when the stalker bitches from hell squee squad descends like a pack of rabid vultures.

Date: 2008-08-27 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denara.livejournal.com
I'm seeing it in October too... I've been poking around and hear it might be the 14th, which I really hope is true since we'll be there the weekend before. So he won't have been completely traumatized yet... poor man.

Date: 2008-08-27 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymako71.livejournal.com
Actually after some poking around myself, I think you REALLY got off lucky. It's the 22nd of October when they descend.

Date: 2008-08-27 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denara.livejournal.com
Oh thank god. 2-3 days was not a comfortable buffer for me.

Thanks for finding the real date!

Date: 2008-08-27 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymako71.livejournal.com
I made a ranting post about the psycho fen fangirls after reading this, and one of the responses mentioned that the horde crash the party, the day before she even gets on the plane...so I just backtracked to find her itinerary.

Date: 2008-08-27 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denara.livejournal.com
The 22nd is the day I fly home, so I'll be well clear of the country by then. Your poor friend though! Having to enter the aftermath.

See, I'd think I was over-exaggerating, but I've seen psycho enthusiastic fangirls in action, and it was not pretty...

Date: 2008-08-27 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess-spygal.livejournal.com
Ooo I read the python story when it came up in my news email. I always read the weird news! Says more about me than the news, no doubt.

That blog about David Tennant just makes me feel sorry for the poor guy. I mean, liking an actor all very well and good, but he just looked so harassed in that picture she posted =(

Date: 2008-08-27 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidkevin.livejournal.com

> This secret at [livejournal.com profile] fandomsecrets made me blink
> a bit. Now, I find Adama/Roslin quite hot and sweet
> and all (duh), but I'm not quite seeing the hotness
> with pregnancy. Then again, I don't get the babyfic
> thing at all.


Nobody ever let lack of knowledge of how sex works in reality get in the way of a fanfic.

Given Mary McDonnell's actual age, presuming that Laura Roslyn is the same, the character is undoubtedly past menopause.

Date: 2008-08-27 11:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rhipowered.livejournal.com
LEAVE DAVID ALLLOOOOHOOOONE!!!!1

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