The mind, watch it boggle.

[misscam]

WHAT?!

The mind boggles to the point of pain.

East of the Sun, West of the Moon has Chapter Eleven up here and here (the latter with lyrics, since ff.net now says that's a Big Bad.)

Speaking of Big Bads - Not only lyrics ff.net wants removed - read some of the comments of people who've e-mailed ff.net.

So I've decided to start putting up my stories here. It seems all right enough.

Italy and US still disagree on the shooting of an Italian agent. Add to this an Italian PM in hard weather and agry Italian public and Cam does wonder if Italy may soon be pulling out of Iraq. Hmmhmmm.
And add to this yet again, troubles in Iraq and the whole thing is enough to give anyone a headache.

And as much as I love CSI and yes, squee over my particular ships, there are some CSI shippers that leave Cam with the feeling of having fallen down a rabbithole. It's almost like it's a religion to them. Sometimes, they even ship the same thing as Cam and there isn't enough headdesking in the world.

Today, there has been much mindboggling and my brain hurts.

Comments

[elvea-aure.livejournal.com]

Ugh. I'm getting so sick of all those religious fanatics trying to impress their believes onto others through any and every way possible. Religion and science don't mix. You're not supposed to oppress others by doing such things. When in public functions, those people should shut up about religion. It's a personal thing. Grrr.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

To some, it is more than a private thing, me thinks. In my country, being Christian is considered a private matter - even asking about it can be seen as slightly offensive. But I guess this is not true for some more fundamentalist Christians, where they seem to want it braided into everything they do and are. And sometimes, that does lead to problems.

[elvea-aure.livejournal.com]

It gets on my nerves sometimes. I respect everyone's (lack of) religion (really, I don't care if you're a muslim or hindu or something else), but I expect people to do the same thing for me- meaning that they don't try to convert me somehow or in any other way impress their religious ideas upon me. It's when people start doing that that I cease to respect them. I agree with the 'general Norwegian idea' as you just explained it- religion is a private thing.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Yeah. But they have ideas about 'saving' people, I guess and one Christian once told me she felt guilty is she didn't try. *shrugs*

[elvea-aure.livejournal.com]

I know- they see 'saving' people as doing something very noble. But when I look at history, this 'saving' of people often involved the slaughter of people, and mostly loads at a time. You'd think this would get them to consider that maybe they're getting it wrong somehow.

Of course, not all Christians were guilty of that, and Christians aren't the only ones doing it. It seems to me all this skull-bashing is rather pointless, really. Can't we all just respect one another's beliefs?

[misscam.livejournal.com]

But then we'd never get to prove which faith is better! /sarcasm

[elvea-aure.livejournal.com]

Well in that case I'd better get out my Great Majick Staff of Smiting and kick some, uhm... Catholic arse. Or something.

[me2you.livejournal.com]

*blinks* I... they... *clings to England* I love you, I love you, I love you.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I feel the same way about Norway sometimes. *hugs Norway*

Also - hee, icon!

[velocityofsound.livejournal.com]

What the everliving FUCK is that article? Blood...boiling...pain...rage. Boggled is right. If these so-called religious hospitals take government funds and accept the public at large, they can blow me for this bullshit. Nevermind how wrong it is just in general. SCIENCE! Basic reproductive science they are manipulating. Gaaaaaahhhh.

I love being a Blue Stater in THE Blue State. I swear I am going to marry a woman just out of spite.



(YTDAW started to kind of freak me out. I am a squeeing fangirl, I have a fandom journal for pete's sake. And there are some great people that I met through that site. But there are a lot of posters over there that make me want to sacrifice kittens. Maybe I should set up a knitting thread so that they can all have a hobby. YIKES le scary. Sucks, because I'm sure there are new, cool people but I haven't posted in a month because it hurts my brain.)

[kitness.livejournal.com]

I hear ya (on both counts - article and YTDAW)

I've been avoiding YTDAW because I was starting to get a little frightened by the SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!! I WUB THE GSR!!!!! followed immediatly by the "NOOOOOOOO MY WORLD IS OVER I'M ABANDONING SHIP MY HEART IS RIPPED IN TWO!!! etc, etc.

I've met lots of cool people there, but right now it's just freaking me out. And making me want to gnaw off one of my limbs.

[velocityofsound.livejournal.com]

The one nice thing about it - when I feel like I watch too much TV, or am too involved in online life, I have a nice reminder that I'm not so bad. *s*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

It was so not like that when I joined. I actually joined it because it was smart, low on squee and high on analysis and intellegent discussion. I miss those.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I hear your gah and raise with a aaaargh. A public hospital should service the public and the public's need and a raped woman does not need to get knocked up on top of her stress and pain. Besides, the day after pill does not kill babies. A hospital of all places should know just what that does.

*args some more*

(I know what you mean. There are some very lovely people on YTDAW, but of late it sometimes feel like a certain kind of teenagers have taken over and they're driving me to insanity. Whatever happened to GSR being a ship about mindmeld and smart people?)

re: songs

[norwegianne.livejournal.com]

What irks me about the whole thing is that ff.net's methods of running a business are so fucked up by now that it's not worth the bother. As they don't check violations, just delete, from the sounds of it, I'll just go silently into the night with my stories.

I removed those of my stories that are so old that they exist nowhere else, and put them up on a message-board for temporary storage until I find some other place.

Of course, most of those suck so much that I really debated if it was worth it... cliché upon cliché... So, before I post them anywhere else, they're probably getting rewritten and edited. My very own Mary-Sue has been crying out for that ever since I wrote her, granted the story never got past three chapters and have been standing unfinished for the past four years or so, and it was someone else's idea in the first place. But.. *shrugs*


Of course, I'm thinking of setting up a domain of my own, and trying my hand at database programming. It's part of the study-programme so it might be nice to try it out on something that I'm interested in.

Re: songs

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I know, I just deleted six or seven stories - utter crap. Some I just kept for sentimental value. I don't really feel like rewriting them even if it would be an interesting exercise. Maybe I should do one, just to see if I can...

Domain of one's own is *gold*.

[briasoleil.livejournal.com]

Holy fuck! I have no words to describe my anger over that. A woman should not be forced into that kind of position. She just shouldn't. It goes without saying that a woman shouldn't be raped in the first place. But she most definitely should not be forced by doctors and other medical professionals to possibly become pregnant by her rapist, making for an even harder, more emotional decision.

I hate religion. Blar.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I know - you'd think a woman who'd been raped could be spared that, at least. Hasn't she suffered enough without having to justify why she might not want a child out of something that was in fact an abuse that may scar her forever?

Blah.

[sinneahtes.livejournal.com]

Speaking of angering articles concerning people interfering with others' reproductive rights, now a 13-year-old pregnant Floridian was blocked from having an abortion--so she's "too young to choose," but apparently not too young to have a baby and possibly raise it.

This country needs to have a lot of people just lined up and slapped one after another.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

*stares*

The judge's ruling comes in spite of Florida state law which specifically does not require a minor to seek parental consent before an abortion.

What the flaming f?

[sinneahtes.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's what got me most, too. Why am I suddenly wanting to smack someone about the term "activist judges?" Ugh.

[erhothwen.livejournal.com]

When religion and science get mixed up, no one benefits. EFFING BLOODY RIGHT!

That is just...so...urgh! *speechlessness*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

*echoes speechlessness*

[chem-nerd.livejournal.com]

I am religious. I am a scientist. I keep these two areas of my life separate. There is a reason for this. I don't want religion screwing up my science, or, for that matter, science screwing up my religion.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Sounds sane.

Did you just join YTDAW, BTW?

[chem-nerd.livejournal.com]

Yep.

[sekhmets-temple.livejournal.com]

Wow...the rape/medical thing...just so wrong. Religion, man. I wish it would mind its own business, unfortunately that is polar opposite to its modus operandi.

And the Godawful forum link was hilarious. Well, okay, frustrating due to the ban on lyrics, but some of the posts were quite funny and the signatures had me laughing out loud. It makes me want to join!

[misscam.livejournal.com]

It's a funny place most of the time, yes ;) We mock and laugh and gak over badfics.

[rose-noire.livejournal.com]

With all the abortion issues, I just think that anyone should be able to make their own decision about what they want to do.

It sucks about FF.net
FF is gonna go down soon then. FF won't be filled with as many stories anymore. FF is probably now getting really unpopular.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Yes and no. New young authors do flock to ff.ne still and it keeps growing. On the other hand, a lot of authors also leaves and if they keep at behaviour like this, who knows...

And agreed. I don't know whether I'd have an abortion myself, but I reserve the right to have that decision be *mine*. My body, my egg, my uterus.

[basilea.livejournal.com]

Damn. I should really stop reading those USA articles, they make me mad! freedom of religion should be considered too as the right to not have any religion at all and not having to live your life according to anyone else's religious concepts.

That's why people makes laws. No God's laws but people's laws. And if you go through the trauma of being raped, no one has the right to tell you that you'll have to endure a parasite from your rapist in your womb cause you were at the wrong moment of the cycle when you were raped.

And on Iraq... I just can't believe this is going on and no one cares about it. Everybody lied about it, and they're still doing so and nothing happens! There was no mistake in that shooting? No one to blame? So, your allieds are shot and killed buy your own soldiers and no one did anything wrong?! What I can't understand is why are there still any other countries helping the USA there... man, they must be planing on make big money there!

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Freedom of religion should certainly extend to atheists too, yeah.

And someone who gets pregnant after a rape is that more likely to want an abortion - I'd think it better than she'd not have to get to that point as well. Good grief.

I guess some do believe in the cause the US supposedly went into Iraq for - me, I think Iraq is a good lesson is just how hard it is to establish democracy and the fact that the US government cannot will things to be as they want, no matter how much they talk prettily.

[lotus79.livejournal.com]

Once again, I'm glad I live in a secular country. (though the majority are probably religious, the "ruling class" is non secular)

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Yes. Even with a priest as Prime Minister, our laws are still secular, thank Norway.

[lotus79.livejournal.com]

Oy. I meant of course to say that our "ruling class" is *secular* But you knew what I meant, anyhow.

And I am at home now, on my own puta! One or two more scans to run before I officially declare it clean. Hurrah!

Oh, Jesus...

[elvenpiratelady.livejournal.com]

There are just no words.

*Adds Catholicism to her long list of Things Not To Join*

[siraj.livejournal.com]

*headdesks until his breainmeats are all over the polished wood*

It's official, I now hate living in my country... time to pack my bags and move to Australia...

[mademoisellenon.livejournal.com]

Some Catholics make my side look bad. Seriously! Fanaticism of any kind is abhorrent but when it's religious, then it's so much worse. The Church needs to rejoin the 21st century and stop being...what it has always been. Come on, people, let's leave the Middle Ages, shall we? Really don't see that happening what with the new...errrr...but hey, we can dream.

Has the CSI Idiot made any new posts? Listening to you moan about her really makes my day. Stupid people, hee! Whatever would we do without them?

[siraj.livejournal.com]

bitch about something else, I'd guess ;)

[mademoisellenon.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, but it wouldn't be as much fun as rightful mocking ;)

[furrybanana.livejournal.com]

Aaaargh!! That is just wrong. Having just done two parts of a year twelve english assessment on the abortion debate in Australia, I am absolutely shocked that religion is so up itself that it can do this to innocent women and not feel a speck of guilt
Aaargh!!