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East of the Sun, West of the Moon has updated with ch. 28 here (ff.net) & here (CSI Forensics). Sara POV.

YTDAW offers multi-shipper thread

Well, well, well. Now this is could be interesting. Well, multi-shipper inclined babes of my flist, shall we dive in and see how it goes?

In the news:
Congressmen probe Iraq war memo
Justice Minister to open EuroPride in Norway (And whatever shall Fred Phelps say, I wonder...)
Dalai Lama visits Norway

Date: 2005-06-16 05:10 pm (UTC)
ext_23294: Gil Grissom from CSI wearing a stupid hat. (Default)
From: [identity profile] velocityofsound.livejournal.com
Got to love the way they started it off too. *garrrrr-dung! wah wah waaaah*

I can't imagine a multi-ship forum could be any more cantankerous than the state of the rest of the forum right now. Welcome to the USS GeekLove. Below you is the pool deck, and the continental breakfast serves croissants and infighting.

And was this thread what people were asking for? I know for me, my issues have always kind of been..
- General unwillingness/inability of the mods to come to the stunning realization that if you want to run a message board, you can't have it both ways with lines like "I'm just a person too" and "This is me having my personal opinion blah blah" before stirring the drama pot.
- The fact that as the site adds more shows, and therefore because of protocol decides on one ship to back, they alienate people one by one because eventually every poster won't agree with the box they are being shoved into, not all G/S shippers are House/Cameron shippers, or Joan/Adam shippers, etc. etc.
- If you don't agree with every ship, you must make sure you never express said alternate opinion, even in passing or with a tiny piece of art, because you will be hit with a) a wave of angry, incoherent fengirls and then b) a wave of mods/"long-time posters", who launch into the same attacks with a slightly more developed vocabulary, until of course, they start fighting with each other.

It's like Mean Girls but everyone is slightly less pretty.

I'm pretty sure that 90% of the evil-doers in this scenario are fans of at least one ship on the board, or they are respectful and have other reasons they want to hang out there. They like the board for some purpose, and I've never heard anyone ask for a revolution by opening up the board to all ships. A little respect, some clearer guidelines, and the ability to every once in a while politely express an alternate preference in one fandom or another without being hit in the back with a machete, yeah.

Me? I just want to shove a pencil into the myopic viewpoint of a lot of CSI shippers in general. That's why I keep my surfing to a minimum at YTDAW, because I don't see the point in starting trouble, and yeah, it really isn't my board. But it sucks, because I do miss out on meeting cool new people in my fandom(s) who dig the same ship(s) I do. I really want to hump the House forum, but my general "poop on you" attitude toward a lot of the posters and the admins (not all, of course) makes me think someday I'll go balistic on someone when they piss me off, and I'd rather avoid embarassing myself.

I am just too old for this shit.

That felt good. I love me some ranting.

Date: 2005-06-16 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You need a hanky for that, babe?

I think a multi-ship place was just a part of the mad, mad ranting over at [livejournal.com profile] briasoleil's, but... Well, I take what I can get and I do love YTDAW to tiny bits despite all, so might as well see if it can be good.

Blah, I'm getting a headache. I'd forgotten the madness of fandom, since I'd made my own corner of LotR fandom.

(Also, psst! YTDAW admins do be a-lurking.)

Date: 2005-06-16 06:05 pm (UTC)
ext_23294: Gil Grissom from CSI wearing a stupid hat. (Default)
From: [identity profile] velocityofsound.livejournal.com
Oh, like I give a shit :) Nothing I wouldn't express though any other medium. Although I should be wary of going on rants like these in other people's journals instead of my own, because at least in my own journal I could say I brought it upon myself. Not that any admin would ever read my journal anyway, but you get what I'm saying. It is kind of weird to think this whole thing spread over here though, especially with a lot of our lists containing posters of all sorts of fandoms.

I am not in love with YTDAW. Nope. I may have had some lust-at-first-site (oh yeah, I am so punny) but now, nyet. I do have dirty thoughts about the House forum though. Mmmmmmm.... House.

Of course, this is all coming from the girl who consistently forgets to even post updates about her fanfic (ummm, whoops for the last like 3 stories) so no big loss there.

A big multi-ship gangbang does have potential though, if the fengirls are kept at bay and the mods don't keep on interjecting with comments on the thread's guinea pig objective. And one big thread doesn't sound like a great idea because there will certainly be a lack of establishing dialogues and gaining momentum with the breadth of topics to discuss.

But I would like a hanky, but only if you stitch something on it for me. Perhaps a Norwegian flag, or a profile of Bush with little devil horns :)

I'm personally going to go hang out more with the Sports Night kids. Mmmm, Dan/Casey porn, the universal balm to soothe all aches.

Date: 2005-06-16 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Heh, fair enough. Just giving you fair warning since you look like you could go at it a while ;)

I think I'm attached to YTDAW since I joined back in 2002 and remember it fondly. I think I'm still in denial of changes. Sniff. (And I'm so spoiled from the LotR fandom where really, I carved my own corner out.)

Well, the thread might not be ideal, but it could still take some of the pressure off, maybe? *shrugs* Come play with us. It's not an orgy without you and your hideous stickmen porn.

*stitches Phelps head onto hanky* Here you go!

Mmmm, Dan/Casey porn, the universal balm to soothe all aches.

Mmm, Legolas/Gimli smut... What? I wasn't saying anything... *looks innocent*

Date: 2005-06-16 06:54 pm (UTC)
ext_23294: Gil Grissom from CSI wearing a stupid hat. (Default)
From: [identity profile] velocityofsound.livejournal.com
Eh, that's it. I'm done (not drawing porny stick figures probably. But I'm done with the ranting. That's all my beef in one tasty styrofoam package.)

*looks innocent*? Riiiight Cam. Mmmm-hmmm. *points to icon*

Date: 2005-06-16 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Ugh, styrofoam. I knew something wasn't tasting right...

Aren't you forgetting you asked for the drabble that spawned said line and icon?

Date: 2005-06-16 07:56 pm (UTC)
ext_23294: Gil Grissom from CSI wearing a stupid hat. (Default)
From: [identity profile] velocityofsound.livejournal.com
I am always reponsible for porn, one way or another. ;)

Date: 2005-06-16 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briasoleil.livejournal.com
You need to post in the Veronica Mars forum, so that it doesn't look like it's just me.

Not that I need to discuss VM over there anymore.

Really, I'm quite fine with lj for all my discussion needs.

Date: 2005-06-16 08:53 pm (UTC)
ext_23294: Gil Grissom from CSI wearing a stupid hat. (Default)
From: [identity profile] velocityofsound.livejournal.com
I'm getting there. I swear! (if I'd stop writing random fanfic and watching crap on cable... that is)

Date: 2005-06-16 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briasoleil.livejournal.com
You said everything that I wanted to say. I am now redundant. I should just go off myself now.

And that was a stunning introduction. Bitter much? *le sigh*

Date: 2005-06-16 08:51 pm (UTC)
ext_23294: Gil Grissom from CSI wearing a stupid hat. (Default)
From: [identity profile] velocityofsound.livejournal.com
That shit was great... if I ran that board I would have just come out and said "Okay, you little twats. You whined for this, so we are giving it to you to prove how benevolent/superior/awesome we are, and by the way, we will be laughing when it blows up IN YOUR FACE!"

Uhh, that may be why I avoid message board administration.



Date: 2005-06-16 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Messageboard Dictatorship and Insults 101 by Kay.

Date: 2005-06-16 09:00 pm (UTC)
ext_23294: Gil Grissom from CSI wearing a stupid hat. (Default)
From: [identity profile] velocityofsound.livejournal.com
I would truly be a nightmare, because I have no tact whatsoever. I don't think you are supposed to call your members things like fuckface, but knowing me? First time anyone bitched to me I'd let 'em have it. I would be an awesome domanatrix as long as I didn't have to wear those uncomfortable looking shoes.

But honestly, I'd rather brash, snarky honesty than posturing. But I spend my free time drawingstick figured in foursomes, so perhaps that might have been everyone's first clue I'm a bit odd :)

Date: 2005-06-16 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I have a few mod duties and yeah - there are times you think very, very ugly thoughts and wonder if it's possible to kill by brainpower. I guess I can be tactful sometimes - I know, shocking.

You ain't the only odd one, that's for sure. Besides, normality is dull.

Date: 2005-06-16 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hadria.livejournal.com
Eh, I'm okay with the forum as is and I gotta give them props for even listening to the complaints in that giant thread o' wankery. As to how they started the thread off - maybe they're just as snarky as we are? I dunno, I'm still of the opinion that there's nothing much more they can do to improve the forum. My beef is with the 12 year old fangirls who can't spell and treat G/S as some weird religion.

Secondly, ohmigod I suck, I've been super busy lately and am like twelve chapters behind on East of the Sun, West of the Moon. My God, you write fast (and excellently of course). This is my apology for being a crappy reviewer of WIP fic and a sloooooooooooow reader. You may send me the collective stench that Donald Rumsfeld left whilst in Norway as punishment.

Date: 2005-06-16 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
*shrugs* I'm mostly fine with YTDAW myself, I just sometimes get a bit frustrated since I straddle my two ships and don't want to keep them apart. They'd miss each other ;)

You may send me the collective stench that Donald Rumsfeld left whilst in Norway as punishment

Now that would just be cruel and unusual punishment and only due if you were 30 chapters behind ;) I'll forgive you if you give me a merry little review, though :P I'm easy.

Date: 2005-06-16 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saxihighlandck.livejournal.com
What would Phelps say.. who cares, I'll here about it soon enough.

Multishipping.. people will argue more than talk...

Date: 2005-06-16 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saxihighlandck.livejournal.com
Um... Hear about it soon enough...

Date: 2005-06-16 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Do tell me if he chokes on his rage.

As for the thread... We'll see how it goes.

Date: 2005-06-17 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immoralilly.livejournal.com
Wow. YTDAW has gone all liberal on us. How long do you think it will take before it is clogged up with irate GSR IS DA ONLY 1 posts?

Date: 2005-06-17 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh, they have the rest of the Board to play with - why would they want to come visit us heathen multi-shippers? ;)

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