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Truly, there are no words (It's at page two where things get truly disturbing...)

From the thread and the mouths of self-proclaimed pedophiles:

I am a pedophile, and I love children. (...)

I agree that penetrative intercourse with prepubescent children is physiologically dangerous, so I do not believe it is ethically permissible (nor should it be legally permissible). But I think children can handle non-intercourse sexual activities, and can give informed consent to such activities if they received good education. (...)

So yes, in this society, consent with a child is next to impossible, and will remain so for a long time. But one day that WILL change, and when it does, the world will be a better place for it, because a lot else will change as well. Law will be unnecessary, because Love will be the only law. And ye harm none, do as ye will. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" and "Love is the law, love under will." (...)

When I see a child I don't know, then yes, I lust at first. Then I love. I see the Divine Within Her. Sometimes it delays, but other times it has been the first emotion to hit. There have been times where I saw a child and immediately saw the Divine Soul within, immediately was overtaken by a beauty more than the physical and nearly broke down in tears of joy for it. And that love never changes intensity, I just get used to it. One of my young friends has kind of been messed up by life in general, and so she gets very violent at times with other people. Most people run away from her when this happens, but my love for her is such that my own physical pain means nothing to her having someone to vent to, to listen to her, and to be sympathetic. Sure, I find her pretty physically, but admittedly, normal lust would NOT have attracted her to me, as she is somewhat overweight. It was Love, instead. (...)

I'm.... The words, they fail me.

I think I have to throw up. Especially at the future vision of the pedophile dream. Love shall be law and love is all about having sex with children who are not yet biologically and emotionally equipped to handle it, innit? The things people will do to justify themselves... Sometimes, humanity gives me the willies.
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Date: 2005-07-13 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phillopian.livejournal.com
That is quite possibly the most disturbing thing i have ever read. Excuse me, i have to go evacuate my lunch now. Something needs to be done about this crap, such as castration or beheading, then and only then will it stop.

Date: 2005-07-13 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh, some of these people are obviously mentally ill and need help - but I really do think the safety of children must be the first concern.

And yeah... It's rather disturbing just how proud they seem to be of it. Ye Gods.

Date: 2005-07-13 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piecesofalice.livejournal.com
Why/how/when did you stumble onto this?

Unbelievable. I'm speechless, too.

Even after four years of neuro and social psychology, I'm still amazed at the delusions that come out of seriously ill people. I know I should be objective, but paedophilia is one of the few issues I didn't enjoy teaching or learning about because it is just inherantly wrong.

Date: 2005-07-13 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It appeared at a messageboard I'm a member of, GodAwfulFanFiction (GAFF). We tend to discuss other things GA too and pedophiliac organisations came up... and pedophiles came crawling out of the woodwork.

Date: 2005-07-13 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syncopated_time.livejournal.com
And ye harm none, do as ye will. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"

I'm sure Wiccans will be thrilled to see their rede being twisted and perverted to support pedophilia. Ick. Reading this first thing in the morning puts quite an icky spin on my day.

Date: 2005-07-13 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Tell me about it... "Because Mother Earth is all about lusting the children!"

Shudder.

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Date: 2005-07-13 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
Personally, I would chop off his penis and testicles with a dull and rusty hatchet and grind them up in a sausage grinder. Him, and all others like him.

Why yes, I DO have issues with paedophiles.

Date: 2005-07-13 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I think most normal people do have issues with pedophilia, though of course some more personally than others.

Gotta love the attempt in there to equalize it with homosexuality too. Yeah, they're the same /sacrascm

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Date: 2005-07-13 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinneahtes.livejournal.com
But I think children can handle non-intercourse sexual activities, and can give informed consent to such activities if they received good education.

...you think?! I really hope you don't act.

And you know, when people's "thoughts" match their desires like this, I begin to worry that they haven't really done all the necessary research, and that if they have, they saw only what they wanted, instead of what was.

And about that "informed consent" thing--oh good gravy. If children experience sexual feelings, that's not for a horny adult to try taking advantage of, whatever sort of "education" you give them. And I don't even want to know what kind of abuse would be made of "informed consent."

Date: 2005-07-13 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It's all about justification, really. Humans are very, very good at it.

Date: 2005-07-13 04:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] falena
Oh God, I think I've just seen my lunch twice...

That was the most disturbing thing I've ever come across. I think the world is just a sad, sick place sometimes.

:: shudders in horror ::

Date: 2005-07-13 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Hell yeah. People can so twisted I'm sure they'd embarress even Satan.

Date: 2005-07-13 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alwaysexcused.livejournal.com
Oh.my.god. Excuse me while I throw up.

I just ran out of words.

Date: 2005-07-13 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
*holds bucket*

I know the feeling.

Date: 2005-07-13 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittkatbar77.livejournal.com
*stares at the computer screen* *mumbles incoherently*

I simply cannot speak. no words desribe this.

Date: 2005-07-13 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yes. Some things are beyond words, though "WTF and Oh.No to infinity" gets somewhere near.

The goggles - they do nothing!

Date: 2005-07-13 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] b2wm.livejournal.com
All that about an increase in child prostitutes... No. No, that is what the laws are there to prevent. Just no. And I thought I'd seen some stupid articles lately. Twisted logic without facts leads to nothing good...

Date: 2005-07-13 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wcspegasus.livejournal.com
That's just...EW! *shudders*

Date: 2005-07-13 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kazaera.livejournal.com
The HELL?!?!

Damn, I just ate lunch. Now I'm going to lose it.

...there are no words. Trying to justify wanting to have sex with children is bad enough. Trying to justify it like that...

*turns green*

Scusemewillbebackrightaway*runsout*

*retching noises*

Date: 2005-07-13 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It's the pride and the claims of 'specialness' taht did me in. Oh God, my lunch...

Date: 2005-07-13 06:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shandydann
It is just sick, and twisted.

Date: 2005-07-13 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] me2you.livejournal.com
I'm afraid. Please, somebody hold me. An adult somebody.

Date: 2005-07-13 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dt_maxwell.livejournal.com
*covers her eyes and shudders* Oh my God. That... that is just... Ugh. Words can't describe the revulsion I feel right now.

It's stuff like this that makes me wonder that if there is a God, why did he even bother creating humans? And if there isn't a God, why were we allowed to evolve?

*shudders again* I'm going to go curl up on my couch with one of my cats now... Ugh, I need some bleach to purge all that from my brain...

Date: 2005-07-13 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Because the Universe has no concept of good and wrong, just life and death, destruction and creation?

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Date: 2005-07-13 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodanna.livejournal.com
Oh my... just... Oh my. That's awful... Though I do like this line:
There have been times where I saw a child and immediately saw the Divine Soul within, immediately was overtaken by a beauty more than the physical and nearly broke down in tears of joy for it.
Of course it'd be more breath-taking if they weren't talking about being attracted to a kid probably 10 or younger, more likely younger. *gags*
The board you linked to has some really interesting thoughts and points though...

Date: 2005-07-13 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodanna.livejournal.com
...until all the pedophiles came out of the woodworks. Gross.

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Date: 2005-07-13 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawning-star.livejournal.com
Let's see: twisting homosexuality, twisting the Wiccan rede, twisting the meaning of the word love, twisting the intent behind informed consent.

I'm going to go throw up now. And pray that whoever wrote that is tortured to death.

Date: 2005-07-13 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idreamedmusic.livejournal.com
::speechless::
That has to be about the most appaling and horrid thing I've ever read. What really gets to me is that there's people who actually believe this shit. Bah.

Date: 2005-07-13 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
And takes pride in it!

And there are parents who let this self-proclaimed pedophile, knowing what he is, near their child? No, no, no.

Date: 2005-07-13 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briasoleil.livejournal.com
I am no less revolted now than I was last night when you first mentioned it to me.

Date: 2005-07-13 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angeletoile.livejournal.com
I'm speechless. That is just so wrong. I don't know how else to put it.

Date: 2005-07-13 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfishofelves.livejournal.com
Good God. *ill* Yeah, I really don't know how they think any of that falls under "harm none." Which isn't even mentioning the fact that the Wiccan rede doesn't deserve to be perverted so.

Date: 2005-07-13 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitness.livejournal.com
I can't even explain how much this grossed me out. In particular, that last quote scares the crap out of me. Wow. I'm sorry, if I were eight years old, I don't care how Divine my Soul was, I'd want that sick fuck as far from me a humanly possible. Ugh.

Date: 2005-07-13 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beautyid.livejournal.com
These people are sick. Sick, sick, sick. I don't care if they've never molested a child. I don't care if I'm being intolerant. They should be locked away where they can never have access to children, ever. I think it's disgusting that people even try to justify these urges. Children should /not/ be thought about that way. There is something seriously wrong with these people.

Date: 2005-07-13 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yes, but if they'd have to accept that, they'd have to accept the shame that comes with that too, and I'm guessing they've opted to go the other way.

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Date: 2005-07-13 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reia.livejournal.com
This is just absolutely sick. My sister is nine years old, and she's rather tall for her age and there is STILL no way that having intercourse would not seriously hurt her. Children that age are just not built for it, and anyone who thinks they are and is turned on by children is just a complete sicko. *shudders*

The very thought that anyone would do that with kids (and think it's all right) should be castrated or something.

Date: 2005-07-13 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yes.

And taking aside the physical hurt, there's the psycological, too.
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_lost_iris_/
They're mixing up love, lust, and... I don't know what. But the fact remains that it is sick--I know that if any person even had the THOUGHT of "introducing" my sister to shit like that, I'd probably go into a killing rage. Kids are innocent--at least, a lot of the ones that I know are, and they'd be scared senseless and emotionally/mentally scarred for life if a pedophile got his/her nasty hands on them. Not to mention the fact that most kids aren't physically developed either. *shudders to think of the pain and... sickness of it all*

I don't care if I'm taking it too far, but people should be jailed for even thinking those thoughts. It's sick beyond sick.
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Not jailed maybe, but certainly taken under treatment, cos that is not a healthy urge. Ever.

Date: 2005-07-13 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krazykat.livejournal.com
Not only does the pedophilia idea disturb and nauseate me, but perversion of my rede and my fundamental belief system to justify something this wrong is absolutely horrific! Children are way too innocent for this crap. In today's world, children loose their innocence far to early; let them keep it for as long as possible.
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