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Think wanky debates over the CSI finale have ended? Far from it.

Sara rode Grissom's magic bus and CSI fandom wanked, part gazillion and half:
What saddens me the most is that, in one episode, in little under 3 minutes you have taken a wonderful show dedicated to bringing out the voices of the unheard, into a chaotic menagerie of who ended up riding Gil Grissom's magic bus.

Other choice comments - thread is sure to grow.

CSI has justified my childhood experience with sexual abuse:
It's sad though cause at one point I really did admire the concept of Gil Grissom, but after he looked at Sara the way he did at the end of " Way To GO " (which by the way Way To Go CSI.. {might have been a wise way to end the show} ), respect an admiration for him was totally lost.
She is old enough to be his daughter, and I know someone who said they didn't care if she was, that she was an adult so she could sleep with him if she wanted to. I don't know where Bill's head is in this, or maybe it's just the name Billy that makes men lust after younger women (hence him being a producer and wanting this), but thanks to the season finale of CSI, I get to relive my own Nesting Dolls, Grissoms not included. (Comes with a Billy - 17 years older - age doesn't matter though)
Thank you Mr. Peterson and all of you at CSI for just verifying what others said about me being wrong, after all if age does not matter then so what if I was 10 and he was 27, and married to my mom. Right? Age doesn't matter after all, is that not what your saying?


A fan has many ideas for storylines for season seven:
gil's quietly going to go to one of several places for treatment
1. a mental health hospital
2. the best VD hospital for serious treatment in San Francisco
3. Loyola Semenary for spirtual and possible becomeing a priest (he's been to hell so he's experienced)
4. mother dies and he really needs to take care of her estate
5. suffers a major heart attack and must stay home to recup.
6. has brain surgery (a lobotomy) with the hopes of removing the horrible nightmares he's been having.
when he comes back in Feb 2007, we can only hope he is cured of that horrible saraidics he somehow caught after six years. saddly like cancer, it wasn't caught in time and cut out. (damn the one series jorja desided not to skip out of after the first year HAD to be this one)


TV GUIDE, the bastion of *Grillows:
The reason why TPTB can not see the polls in places like TV GUIDE and MSN,it's because they know that these polls are not accurate,the same person could vote thousand of times and, actually,TV GUIDE is the ONLY place when people seem to like to see Grissom with Catherine or Lady Heather.
* Catherine/Grissom. See ship names, horrid habit of mushed character names for

In other places

Sleeping with Gil Grissom, the new mental illness:
I think the reason I haven't lost respect for Sara, yet, is because I seriously see this as an instance of mental illness. And you can't be mad at people who don't realize that they are unwell. (...)
for me, it's all part of the obsessive thing. It's a mental illness. You don't just wake up cured from a mental illness. Something has to happen.
So, I don't know. WIll it be seeing Nick with someone else? Seeing herself reflected in another woman's like situation? Grissom doing something tremendously unforgiveable? I have no idea.


SaraSidleStokes advices TPTB:
tptb do have GSR (well cause of WP) BUT NO ONE else wants it (well I should say very few people want it) and the ratings will drop the longer they have it so Personally I think it would be in tptbs best interest to end it and not drag it on
Like I said I think her obsession stems from her childhood I think deep down she's in love with Nick but she's afraid of hurting him and she's confused(...)
I havent lost respect for the characters cause they are just actors being told what to do .I've lost respect for tptb ESPECIALLY William Peterson
because instead of giving us what WE WANT they are doing what THEY want


GSR will pave the way for Catherine/Grissom:
What may seem like a bad thing for us GCers is actually somewhat okay for me in that, it creates wonderful angst and tension between Cath and Gil. And that's the best kind.
Let the SGers have their fun, but sooner or later, Gil's real love will catch up with him and ... heh. Yeah.


Internet petitions can change the world!:
Thank you for letting us reach our signature goalof 260. We have sent this petition to the CBS andCSI authorities and we really appreciate thatbecause of this petition, the media sites and CBSthemselves are taking a second look at therelationship of Grissom and Catherine, and toyingwith the possibility of hooking up Sara with otherguys. Thank you and your signatures and help wereappreciated.

Bring on season seven and the continued war of the shippers, I guess.

It's hot and I can't sleep, just lie there like a blob of energyless mass and think about snow and ice and frolicing in lakes. I'm half tempted to go sleep in the wine cellar, which holds a steady cool temp.

In a meme:
Name me a character or a ship from any of these - CSI, Doctor Who, Lord of the Rings - fandoms, and I'll tell you my favorite canon moment involving them, and my favorite wanky fandom moment involving them too. (Doesn't have to be a pairing or a character I am the hugest fan of as such, but please, no fanon!invented ships since those don't have Canon moments. Like Boromir/Harry Potter - they've never met and don't even share a Universe.)
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Date: 2006-07-21 10:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-07-21 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
School Reunion - Mickey and K-9 in the car, Mickey having a few relationsations.

Wanky fandom moment... Hum, good question. I think it was prior to season two, some reactions to spoilers about Mickey being being a companion with lots of rambling about it interrupting the twuwub.

Date: 2006-07-21 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] satiate.livejournal.com
omg, you have to elaborate on favourite canon and wanky fandom doctor who moment. :P


and being a sara/grissom shipper myself (although i don't actively participate in that fandom, so i'm not involved in any of those bizarre ship wars), i am very well amused by those links. at least the ending didn't involve grissom/sofia. because that would have been really freaking wrong, lol.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You have to pick a character or a ship and narrow it down a bit, my dear.

Grissom/Sofia is the chosen ship of Tazzer, Sara hater extraordinaire, I like her - I am never bored by her "Viva Gofia!"

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Date: 2006-07-21 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] b2wm.livejournal.com
You're not going to expand on the gr8 & tooby luv of Boz/Pothead? Aww... ;)

That said, Neville Longbottom.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I love Neville - so my favourite moment is when he gets them the ten points in the first book to win them the House Cup. Aw, Neville.

I don't think I can remember any particular wanky fandom moments concerning him. Closest would have to be some wailing about JKR saying Luna/Neville wouldn't happen, I guess.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaskalcorp.livejournal.com
Seen any Leela episodes of Dr Who?

Date: 2006-07-21 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
'fraid not. Only seen a few clips of her.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 20thcenturyvole.livejournal.com
Legolas/Gimli: the only Legolas pairing worth talking about. *g*

Date: 2006-07-21 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Canon - Legolas being unable to find the words after visiting the Glittering Caves with Gimli.

Hum, have to strain my memory a bit here - oh yeah, there was one wank on a slash mailing list about L/G blowjobs and the trouble of different size. Small, but was amusing.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] melliyna.livejournal.com
Faramir - because I've been rereading The Two Towers and remembering how much I adore him.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
'Do not scorn the pity that is the gift of a gentle heart...' and the following bits in the Houses of Healing. Shut up, I am a sap.

Faramir-wank - oh yeah, the reviewer who commented on a LotR high school fic (ugh) that had Faramir as a goth on how that was a debasement to his character and the following flame war.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regala-electra.livejournal.com
Aww, someone already picked Mickey, so tell us about Jackie. :-)

Date: 2006-07-21 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Reunion scene with Pete, no doubt.

Wanky fandom moment... Any fic having Jackie get physical abusive towards the Doctor and the justification of those.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-angel72.livejournal.com
Catherine! And just for the record, the very thought of that last scene from this past season's CSI makes my skin crawl. Just sayin'. The hubby and I hopped around yelling WTF? for quite a while.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-angel72.livejournal.com
God, that was terribly wanky, wasn't it? LOL! I have nothing against shippers, don't even participate in fandom. We were just shocked down to our clueless little toes, that's all. I should learn not to post when distracted by the kids. Too little brain to fingers filter. *blushes*

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Date: 2006-07-21 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krazykat.livejournal.com
Luna Lovegood - if you've read the books with her.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Luna - hanging up the note about wantings her things return before going home. The calm way she goes about it speaks heaps of her character.

Sadly, cannot think of a wanky fandom moment at all. I'm not much in HP fandom.

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Date: 2006-07-21 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawning-star.livejournal.com
I'd like to say I'm beyond commenting, but sheesh.

I don't understand this hatred of Sara that so many people seem to have. I just can't get it.

Date: 2006-07-21 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
The vitrol in it is what makes me boggle a bit - fair enough that a character doesn't really do it for you, but so much energy into hate of a fictional character? Not sure I quite get that.

Date: 2006-07-22 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kahva.livejournal.com
Let's see, since Legolas and Faramir have already been mentioned, how about Boromir or Arwen?

Date: 2006-07-22 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Boromir - death scene. Definitely. Hard to beat.

Wank, wank - I'm thinking of any author trying to defend her making Boromir a woman-hatin', dwarf-hatin', elf-hating' bastard in a story with "he was like, so MEAN in the Council scene!!!"

Wank happens when any bookfan stumble by, oh yes.

Date: 2006-07-22 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elcalion.livejournal.com
How about Meriadoc Brandybuck?

Date: 2006-07-22 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Stabbing the Witch King.

Wank - hmm, I think the wank concerning "Recaptured" and the characterisation of Merry and Pippin in there,

Date: 2006-07-22 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] me2you.livejournal.com
SaraSidleStokes is one of my new favourite people, and I don't know why. She's just so... well, I don't want to say stupid, but for lack of a better word...

Ordinarily I find the wankiness all rather amusing, especially since the GSR is canon and the writers are gonna write what the want, no matter how much anybody kicks and screams and cries incest, but the "They're justifying child abuse!" defence really pisses me off. How they are anything like the same thing I have no idea. Clearly somebody needs several more years of therapy.

Date: 2006-07-22 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keskt.livejournal.com
This also bothers me. I realize we all get illogical about things, and it's the internet so who cares to an extent, but wtf with the claim it's justifying child abuse. I really feel like it's just undermining the horrific nature of the sexual abuse of the child to compare it to GSR. Is Sara a child? I mean, she's in her 30's for Pete's sake. And I do believe that William Petersen's real life wife is younger than Jorja Fox anyway.

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Date: 2006-07-22 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keskt.livejournal.com
Character: Sara Sidle. Good luck choosing only ONE favorite bit of wank related to her :P.

Date: 2006-07-22 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
:P

Canon, I love her in Blood Drops.

Wank - choices, choices, choices. Oh yes. The Sara-bashing tampon fic. There can be no other.

Date: 2006-07-22 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] csinut214.livejournal.com
Character: David the Coroner

Date: 2006-07-22 09:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
His look in the scene where they discover they're about to an autosy on a guy still alive, and later when he did die and they actually have to do it.

Wank, wank.... Has there been wank with him? I cannot think of any. I guess any ship fic where his wedding sets the scene for making it the way the author wants it. Saw a few of those in Sara/Nick style after the finale.

Date: 2006-07-22 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] njelruch.livejournal.com
character: Harriet Jones
ship: Mickey/Rose

Date: 2006-07-22 09:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I said *or*, not and :P So pick one.

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Date: 2006-07-22 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurelei.livejournal.com
Aragorn, please. I have a bit of an obsession.

Date: 2006-07-22 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
His walk with the dead. I don't know, there's just something about that image that haunts me.

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Date: 2006-07-22 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-songbird.livejournal.com
How about Captain Jack? (Can't wait for Torchwood to start!)

Date: 2006-07-22 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
His kissing of the Doctor and Rose, both in the same way.

Wank - some of the fics trying to rewrite history into Rose not being stringed along by him at all, but she stringing him along.

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Date: 2006-07-22 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessickuh.livejournal.com
How about we just say that Sara rode Grissom..period. Countless times, and in countless ways? Mmmkay. Who's down with that?

Date: 2006-07-22 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I'm sure many would be happy with fics about it.

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Date: 2006-07-22 04:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
Just for fun, how about Hermione/Snape? Plenty of wank to be choosing from; not so many canon moments. ;)

Date: 2006-07-22 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Do they have Canon moments where he's not sneering at her? One of those, then.

The wank over "Pawn to Queen", no doubt in my mind.

Date: 2006-07-22 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drakyndra.livejournal.com
Because it's insanely obvious, but no-one seems to have asked it yet, Doctor/Rose.

Date: 2006-07-22 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
"I'm the Doctor, by the way. And you are...?" and that following lines. It just sets the tone for their whole relationship in a way.

Cripes, wank-wise - oh yeah. The "Rose loves Nine MORE!" or similar arguments.

Date: 2006-07-22 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturnianali8r.livejournal.com
I like reading the 'OMG Where did Grissom/Sara come up from? There hasn't been any evidence for them.' type of reaction.

How about Eowyn/Aragorn?

Date: 2006-07-22 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
His talk about her and healing of her in the Houses of Healing. Shows a good understanding for her, I think.

Can't really think of any wank - I don't read the pairing at all, so I've probably missed any that might've been.

Date: 2006-07-22 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
Character: Sarah-Jane Smith.

Pairing: Ten/Reinette. ([livejournal.com profile] drakyndra has already asked about Doctor/Rose, but there should be enough wank potential in that one, too. :D)

Date: 2006-07-22 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
*points up* I said *or*, not and :P So pick one. What's this, an eat all you can buffee? You're all so greedy.

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Date: 2006-07-22 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] git-the-goddess.livejournal.com
Boromir/Harry Potter? Must have blocked that one out of my concious mind... yay me.

Meme: K9. :D

Date: 2006-07-22 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I've seen him in only one episode, but from there, "you are in a car". Hee.

Is there K-9 wank? If so, direct me to it.

Date: 2006-07-22 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piaffe.livejournal.com
Huh. For a crime show, the amount of shipping is mind boggling :)

As to the meme thingie, I'd say Faramir/Eowyn...but that would be too easy :D

So, how about the Brigadier?



Date: 2006-07-22 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I have actually not seen him in a full episode, so that would be a bit hard to answer, I'm afraid.

Any other pick?

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