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THE WORLD IS WHITE. WHEE SNOW. (Yes, it snowed yesterday.)

Let's play Wank or No Wank once more.

Owen gets defended. People take exception. Wank or No Wank? [Torchwood spoilers for the first three episodes.]

I shall not comment because I would easily get into RAGE. Oops, that was a comment on its own.

Poster declares her intent not to breastfeed on off chance she can have an orgasm. People take exception. Wank or No Wank?

Errr.

"OHNOES MY SHIP IS THE MOST OPPRESSED!" "NO WAI MINE IS!" Wank or No Wank?

Shippers who feel all persecuted sure get all intent on showing it off at times. A behaviour observed in other fandoms as well, I might add. Including wee Doctor Who. Of course, it all comes down to POV, and from your own, you no doubt genuinely feel the most oppressed. OHNOES THE BNFs HATE MEEEEE.

As for me, I don't actually hate anyone in fandom, but there are a few people I'd like to bite today. Voof. (Yes, I am a Loyal Dog. Which I should get on an icon with K-9.)

I run off to give blood in world of white. Wheee.

Date: 2006-11-01 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smalldiver.livejournal.com
Owen gets defended. People take exception. Wank or No Wank? [Torchwood spoilers for the first three episodes.]

Now, see, I was going to make a comment on that last week, when I saw him using that spray. It seemed a bit dodgy to me. But I'm really not going to get into that.

Poster declares her intent not to breastfeed on off chance she can have an orgasm.

I think the best comeback on that thread to "I don't want any orgasm of mine to be associated with my baby" is "Uh, you do know how babies are made, right?" :D

Date: 2006-11-01 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Now, now. A woman can get knocked up without an orgasm of hers. The world is unfair like that.

Date: 2006-11-01 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oh-medicate-me.livejournal.com
When it comes to that breastfeeding hysteria, I really don't know who's worse: the idiot who's freaking out over a hypothetical situation or the angry BF nazis who have started up with the "you're an ignorant bad mother and you're damaging your child!" ranting.

Gah.

And the persecuted shippers wank is just priceless. We need a new internet law for times like when idiots compare ship wars to the holocaust/salem witch trials/the sinking of the titanic.

*ponders*

Date: 2006-11-01 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I'm sure there are people who felt like burning offending shippers at the stake sometimes. Which makes it the same thing. CLEARLY.

Date: 2006-11-01 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lookingforwater.livejournal.com
Owen is a jackass.

Gwen needs to dump Mickey 2.0 and just bone Jack already.

If Toshiko doesn't get some real development soon, I shall rename her Cannon Fodder and expect her icky demise by the season finale.

Date: 2006-11-01 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Are you shipping Gwen/Jack there, hmmm?

Date: 2006-11-01 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lookingforwater.livejournal.com
I am in favor of Jack/anyone. I just want Jack to get some.

Date: 2006-11-01 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
I haven't even seen the TW episode in question, but I now know all about the magical alien pheromone spray and its questionable use already.

What freaks me out about it is not so much the scene itself (honestly, I find it a bit hard to decide with confidence whether an act involving magical brain-altering alien technology would be classified as rape or "only" sexual assault), as the parallels to RL. I assume it was intended to be a parody of those silly deodorant/perfume adverts, but from what I've heard, it seems to come across rather as a similiarity to rapists knocking out their intended victims with rohypnol.

And some of the excuses are really, really scary. "He's just such a bloke." "Women attract men with breast implants, too."
Gaaaaah.

The breastfeeding wank (heh -- wank indeed) is a bit more amusing, though, even if I'm now intimidated by crazy mothers.
Both the breastfeeding brigade and the "you are all pedophiles!" commenter seem to be slightly soft in the head, if you ask me.

I wasn't breast-fed as a baby, and it obviously didn't hurt me.
But that woman's reason for not breast-feeding is quite silly. Oh, the joys of the Internet.

Date: 2006-11-01 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
The PC comment really got me riled, for some reason. Argh. But yeah, "date rape drug" was rather the parallel I saw too, even if the writers didn't intend it.

Maybe they have too much milk in their brains.

Date: 2006-11-01 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
The PC comment really got me riled, for some reason.

Yeah, I saw that one as well.

How dare anyone to be so overly politically correct and point out that it is not okay to have sex with other people without their consent? What a radical and imbecile notion!

*rollseyes*

*very late*

Date: 2006-11-07 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dave7.livejournal.com
The PC comment really got me riled, for some reason.

Ha. That was me. *guilty* Was meant to be sarcasm, but it didn't come across that way. *is an idiot*

Re: *very late*

Date: 2006-11-08 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Ah. Well, it ain't always easy to tell on the Net. Generally, I'd keep the phrase "too PC" weeeeeell away from anything to do with rape. It is a horridly underreported crime for a reason.

Date: 2006-11-01 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com
I would suggest that you drop a few perfect drops on the snow to see what happens, but that might set off a wank.

Date: 2006-11-01 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahala.livejournal.com
I'm running out of ways to say WTF?

Date: 2006-11-01 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-andromache.livejournal.com
Erm. Wow. I knew people would start running to Owen's defense. I, personally do not like him at all. (But that could possibly change, my entire opinion on TW is yet to really move past anything other than: "My, Jack really is a handsome man.")

The breast feeding wank made my head spin. I think they're all a little wacke.

Date: 2006-11-01 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anybodybutsara.livejournal.com
Please send snow here to NY...Love it..As for breastfeeding!wank...Ew...People are ewey...

Date: 2006-11-01 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] --kali--.livejournal.com
Snnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww!

I want some. Pah.

Date: 2006-11-01 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boz4pm.livejournal.com
O_O *stares in disbelief* Someone actually thought they would have an orgasm from breastfeeding their baby? I'm just... *words fail me at this point* WT very F?

Date: 2006-11-01 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dalinae.livejournal.com
Well, I would think it is remotely possible, given that breastfeeding releases a couple of feel-really-good hormones which aid in mother-baby bonding and those same hormones are majorly responsible for the happiness you feel from falling in love. Of course, that is all I could guess from my undergrad Psych studies; I've never heard of something like that happening (not that it would be something mothers would readily admit to).

Date: 2006-11-01 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boz4pm.livejournal.com
Yes, but as someone on that thread pointed out to allow that stimulus to continue to the point of orgasm you have to be 'in that frame of mind', etc. To think you would be so fixated on 'breast = sexual erogenous zone' that you could not divorce yourself from that with your own baby... That's without even going into the fact that the baby feeds in a way that doesn't usually directly stimulate the same areas - since they take the whole nipple and a good chunk of the breast into the mouth, and the sensitive part of the nipple is kind of in mid-air in the mouth (as it were).

I know of countless mothers, mothers-to-be, and those trying/wanting one day, and I've never heard of anyone even CONSIDERING that would happen. Sorry, but it strikes me as deeply, deeply peculiar.

Date: 2006-11-02 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anybodybutsara.livejournal.com
boz4pm, EXACTLY...Spot on...

Trust me, her nipples wouldn't be stimulated in the way she imagines...My worry is, why would she imagine it at all???...Ew...

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