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And in today's 'whaaaat?':

Females evolved pleasurable response to sex as a survival mechanism to deal with rape, much as males evolved the same to encourage it -- certainly long before humans ever arrived on the scene. In the animal kingdom, where consent is not a menaingful concept, all sex is rape and all sex is not-rape. To animals there is no difference between rape and consensual sex, because they are the same thing.(...)
Men evolved to compete with each other and then seize women as prizes, to force themselves on their prizes, and then develop a sense of emotional attachement to their prizes. Meanwhile women developed to enjoy being captured, and to take advantage of the emotional attachments that the male developed to enlist his aid in child-rearing.
It's pretty ugly yes, but it's there. And if you don't understand that men (all men) have that drive to varying degrees, to just take and let the consequences sort themselves out, then you'll never understand why men can get so angry at women that they will beat them to death for not consenting to sexual relations.


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I'll take WHAT THE FUCK FELL ON YOUR HEAD? for 1000, Alex. Granted, when you wander out of the human neighbourhood and into the wide world of the animal kingdom, 'sex', 'consent' and 'pleasure' get new contexts to be wrapped in constantly and variations are many. Many, many, many. Which might be the first clue drawing sweeping conclusions and making generalizations could meet with fatal accidents. You know, trains of logic head-on.

Also - holy offensive bullcrappery, Batman! I'm not sure to be most offended over backdoor rape justification with villification of the female orgasm or the sweeping insult of males and their pet penises. Choices, choices.

For bonus points, watch him wank away in the wank report about him.

I think I shall exercise my female prerogative of not mating with the losers and throw this one out of the pool of even remote shag possibilities. With extreme prejudice. (However, any males who balk at the bullcrappery will increases their chances. I love me men of logic and sanity.)

In other news:
Norwegian oil fund now biggest fund in all of Europe
Nordic countries closest in the world to gender equality (Not bad, eh? Full report here.))
Settlements 'illegal according to Israeli law', says Israeli peace movement
Dutch election looks to be a close race
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Date: 2006-11-22 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 20thcenturyvole.livejournal.com
I stupidly stupidly STUPIDLY out of irrational boredom followed that up and visited [livejournal.com profile] lovecrafty's journal and read as far down as I could without having an aneurism, and now I just want to physically hurt him so badly. What a pretentious, stuck-up, egomaniac arsehole. Oh God, he made me so angry I think I actually want to cry.

Date: 2006-11-22 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Breeeeathe into the bag. Breathe.

Even I didn't quite dare venture there. At least until you mentioned it. You bastard.

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Date: 2006-11-22 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Because getting a book declaring the most degrading thing you can do to a woman 'natural' is just my dream gift as well.

It's somewhat despairing to see this argument just refusing to die. Even when countered with evidence that rips a big huge hole through.

Date: 2006-11-22 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvenpiratelady.livejournal.com
There is not enough WTF for this. Not anywhere.

Date: 2006-11-22 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Totally.

Date: 2006-11-22 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oh-medicate-me.livejournal.com
...

See, his argument in this thread could be *almost* marginally coherent until he got to the part about rape and once again proved that he's a nutjob who has no idea what he's talking about.

(Though I have to also admit, his comment about "you fucking sheep with your goddamn torches and rakes!!!" amused me far more than it probably should have.)

Date: 2006-11-22 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah - he could've gotten into an interesting discussions about the adapting ways of mating, really, but then it fell spectaculary apart. By need to justify Certain Issues, by the looks of it.

Bæææ.

Date: 2006-11-22 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boz4pm.livejournal.com
O_O

Er... I think words have truly failed me. I am most amused by some of the responses on otf_wank, though. *snerk*

Date: 2006-11-22 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boz4pm.livejournal.com
Oh, and can I just say: pretty picture banner on top of layout. :D That be them there fjords, I'm guessing?

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Date: 2006-11-22 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cincoflex.livejournal.com
wow. It's been a long time since I read anything that made my orgasms seem tawdry.

Date: 2006-11-23 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Doesn't it just?

Stupid men. Can't even let us have decent orgasms.

Date: 2006-11-22 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yattara.livejournal.com
Yeah...not touching that guy with a 10'-feet pole. Even my friend the mindflayer will not touch him. There's not enough in his head.

Date: 2006-11-22 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
Is it a good or a bad thing that I haven't got the time to wade through all the "rape is a natural expression of male desire" shit? I think there is a good reason why I hate biological reductionism so fucking much.

Right now, however, I would like to embrace another biologically reductionist argument and give in to my naturally aggressive urge to maim and kill that idiot.

Date: 2006-11-22 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
Sweet Eru Illúvatar, I've had a look at the [livejournal.com profile] anti_feminism community, and while there are some sensible posts over there, too (for example, about the political proposal to introduce a "citizen's wage" for non-working mothers), it also features gems like We should have more half-naked babes everywhere.

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Date: 2006-11-22 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluerosefairy.livejournal.com
See, I KNOW my mental sanity cannot withstand a visit to a community called [livejournal.com profile] anti_feminism. I KNOW I will go merrily off the deep end should I wander in there. Therefore, I've got two words for Mister "All Sex is Rape".

Yeah. Those are the words.

Date: 2006-11-22 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siraj.livejournal.com
w00t! A fellow DX fan!

*wishes they'd cut more silly promos for wweshop.com*

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From: [identity profile] maureenlycaon.livejournal.com
Awww. The knuckle-draggers are so cute when they're trying to make that hundred-year-old, obsolete concept of the evolution of human sexuality sound so scientific and reasonable. It's like those racists who concoct these wonderfully ingenious explanations for why blacks or Irish or Asians or whatever really are inferior to the rest of us.

To snatch a phrase from Samuel Johnson: "It's like watching a dog trying to walk on its hind legs: it is not done well, but the wonder is that it is done at all."

(Oh, and [livejournal.com profile] lapsarianesque's remark is made of win.)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It does vaguely come across as a way to defend having rape fantasies, which... Well, even some women have those. That doesn't make the act itself NATURAL ACT OF EVOLUTION OMG.

Date: 2006-11-22 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mademoisellenon.livejournal.com
Did you see what that divine male specimen looks like? Forget my eyes bleeding...

Date: 2006-11-23 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Didn't bother to look that up, no.

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Date: 2006-11-22 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wintergreen126.livejournal.com
huh? i'm with you on the sweeping conclusions. the animal kingdom certainly has different 'laws,' so to speak, but to take that and apply that across the board...not cool. too many holes in that theory.

on another note, good for nordic countries for closing the gender gap!

have a wonderful week :o)

Date: 2006-11-23 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Oh so many holes. If anything, the animal kingdom shows that running on instinct can also lead to infinitely complex behaviours. So why should sexuality and mating be so simple?

Date: 2006-11-22 07:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-11-22 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siraj.livejournal.com
"I'll take WHAT THE FUCK FELL ON YOUR HEAD? for 1000, Alex."

The answer is: A fucking Beluga Whale, Cam.


Good Anubis, assholes like that make me want to get a sex change, just so I don't have to be associated with dumbass males. Stop making my gender look bad, dipshit!

Date: 2006-11-23 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah, he sure ain't doing malehood any favours. But I know most males (at least in my country) are not like him, so I ain't knocking males of the menu quite yet.

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Date: 2006-11-22 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] despertarse.livejournal.com
I could barely read the rest by the time I read the part about women enjoy being captured.

Date: 2006-11-23 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
For who doesn't love being prey, truly?

Date: 2006-11-22 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canadian-kazz.livejournal.com
I wonder if that guy suddenly became a girl who was being kidnapped and raped, he would change his mind about a few of the points he made.

Hey, is the wank shelter bar open?

Date: 2006-11-23 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
When in need, the wankshelter bar is always open. What can I get you?

Perhaps, but I wouldn't wish that shit upon anyone.

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Date: 2006-11-22 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dhark-charlotte.livejournal.com
So I didn't go to the links... What I do have to say is this -- WE ARE NOT EFFING ANIMALS RIGHT?! All other arguments aside, animals have no reasoning capability.

Thank is all...

Date: 2006-11-23 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
No, but if guys can show that rape is a 'natural instinct', it becomes easier to excuse.

... Shudder.

Date: 2006-11-23 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] little-baldwin.livejournal.com
>_<

...AUGH. It's been a while since I've had good opportunity to use this, so: It burns us, preciousss...

Date: 2006-11-23 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerowyn47.livejournal.com
My favorite part is way down in the comments of the wank report when one rarirurero challenges him to provide some actual evidence for his claims and the answer is a resounding silence.

Date: 2006-11-23 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Just shows how much bullshit he's full of right there, really.

Date: 2006-11-23 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maajaml.livejournal.com
Hvad fanden? ::closes eyes and thinks of a happy place::

Date: 2006-11-23 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cethlenn.livejournal.com
gawd..........

Date: 2006-11-23 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlezink.livejournal.com
WTF?!?! I mean, seriously WTF!?!? I don't think I'm even able to adequately express verbally what a completely freaking male-chauvinistic loon this jerk is...


And Cam, if you find a man of logic and sanity can you tag him as a new species, cause I haven't found one yet. :)

Date: 2006-11-23 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
My brother is sane and logical. As have some of my ex-boyfriends been. They are about. Just have to remember to give them plenty of love and water them.

Date: 2006-11-23 06:54 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
What the BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP is that BLEEP on? (I am at work, so I don't want to overload your comment page with swearing because then I won't be able to read it.)

That's a special kind of clue-by-four needed there. In fact, how about a clue-by-twenty-four?

Date: 2006-11-23 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siraj.livejournal.com
I think we're going to need something bigger... how about a clue-redwood, say, attached to a crane, swinging it about about 95 miles an hour...

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Date: 2006-11-23 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mad-troll.livejournal.com
I second whatever WTF? here.

But I also have to point out that since humans come out from a womb and are for..say >60%... raised by women, how do this creature and its peers get these ideas?

Date: 2006-11-24 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sliven.livejournal.com
*speechless*

Statements like that makes my natural female killing, stabbing and massacre-instincts kick in.
Ah, sweet violence...

I'll go bury myself in CSS-code now, and try to calm down.
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