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And in today's 'whaaaat?':
Females evolved pleasurable response to sex as a survival mechanism to deal with rape, much as males evolved the same to encourage it -- certainly long before humans ever arrived on the scene. In the animal kingdom, where consent is not a menaingful concept, all sex is rape and all sex is not-rape. To animals there is no difference between rape and consensual sex, because they are the same thing.(...)
Men evolved to compete with each other and then seize women as prizes, to force themselves on their prizes, and then develop a sense of emotional attachement to their prizes. Meanwhile women developed to enjoy being captured, and to take advantage of the emotional attachments that the male developed to enlist his aid in child-rearing.
It's pretty ugly yes, but it's there. And if you don't understand that men (all men) have that drive to varying degrees, to just take and let the consequences sort themselves out, then you'll never understand why men can get so angry at women that they will beat them to death for not consenting to sexual relations.
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I'll take WHAT THE FUCK FELL ON YOUR HEAD? for 1000, Alex. Granted, when you wander out of the human neighbourhood and into the wide world of the animal kingdom, 'sex', 'consent' and 'pleasure' get new contexts to be wrapped in constantly and variations are many. Many, many, many. Which might be the first clue drawing sweeping conclusions and making generalizations could meet with fatal accidents. You know, trains of logic head-on.
Also - holy offensive bullcrappery, Batman! I'm not sure to be most offended over backdoor rape justification with villification of the female orgasm or the sweeping insult of males and their pet penises. Choices, choices.
For bonus points, watch him wank away in the wank report about him.
I think I shall exercise my female prerogative of not mating with the losers and throw this one out of the pool of even remote shag possibilities. With extreme prejudice. (However, any males who balk at the bullcrappery will increases their chances. I love me men of logic and sanity.)

In other news:
Norwegian oil fund now biggest fund in all of Europe
Nordic countries closest in the world to gender equality (Not bad, eh? Full report here.))
Settlements 'illegal according to Israeli law', says Israeli peace movement
Dutch election looks to be a close race
Females evolved pleasurable response to sex as a survival mechanism to deal with rape, much as males evolved the same to encourage it -- certainly long before humans ever arrived on the scene. In the animal kingdom, where consent is not a menaingful concept, all sex is rape and all sex is not-rape. To animals there is no difference between rape and consensual sex, because they are the same thing.(...)
Men evolved to compete with each other and then seize women as prizes, to force themselves on their prizes, and then develop a sense of emotional attachement to their prizes. Meanwhile women developed to enjoy being captured, and to take advantage of the emotional attachments that the male developed to enlist his aid in child-rearing.
It's pretty ugly yes, but it's there. And if you don't understand that men (all men) have that drive to varying degrees, to just take and let the consequences sort themselves out, then you'll never understand why men can get so angry at women that they will beat them to death for not consenting to sexual relations.
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I'll take WHAT THE FUCK FELL ON YOUR HEAD? for 1000, Alex. Granted, when you wander out of the human neighbourhood and into the wide world of the animal kingdom, 'sex', 'consent' and 'pleasure' get new contexts to be wrapped in constantly and variations are many. Many, many, many. Which might be the first clue drawing sweeping conclusions and making generalizations could meet with fatal accidents. You know, trains of logic head-on.
Also - holy offensive bullcrappery, Batman! I'm not sure to be most offended over backdoor rape justification with villification of the female orgasm or the sweeping insult of males and their pet penises. Choices, choices.
For bonus points, watch him wank away in the wank report about him.
I think I shall exercise my female prerogative of not mating with the losers and throw this one out of the pool of even remote shag possibilities. With extreme prejudice. (However, any males who balk at the bullcrappery will increases their chances. I love me men of logic and sanity.)

In other news:
Norwegian oil fund now biggest fund in all of Europe
Nordic countries closest in the world to gender equality (Not bad, eh? Full report here.))
Settlements 'illegal according to Israeli law', says Israeli peace movement
Dutch election looks to be a close race
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Date: 2006-11-22 10:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-22 10:45 am (UTC)Even I didn't quite dare venture there. At least until you mentioned it. You bastard.
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Date: 2006-11-22 10:47 am (UTC)It's somewhat despairing to see this argument just refusing to die. Even when countered with evidence that rips a big huge hole through.
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Date: 2006-11-22 10:38 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-11-22 10:42 am (UTC)See, his argument in this thread could be *almost* marginally coherent until he got to the part about rape and once again proved that he's a nutjob who has no idea what he's talking about.
(Though I have to also admit, his comment about "you fucking sheep with your goddamn torches and rakes!!!" amused me far more than it probably should have.)
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Date: 2006-11-22 10:51 am (UTC)Bæææ.
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Date: 2006-11-22 11:43 am (UTC)Er... I think words have truly failed me. I am most amused by some of the responses on otf_wank, though. *snerk*
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Date: 2006-11-22 11:44 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2006-11-22 12:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-23 08:42 am (UTC)Stupid men. Can't even let us have decent orgasms.
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Date: 2006-11-22 12:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-22 01:13 pm (UTC)Right now, however, I would like to embrace another biologically reductionist argument and give in to my naturally aggressive urge to maim and kill that idiot.
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Date: 2006-11-22 01:26 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2006-11-22 03:11 pm (UTC)Yeah. Those are the words.
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Date: 2006-11-22 07:22 pm (UTC)*wishes they'd cut more silly promos for wweshop.com*
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Date: 2006-11-22 03:12 pm (UTC)To snatch a phrase from Samuel Johnson: "It's like watching a dog trying to walk on its hind legs: it is not done well, but the wonder is that it is done at all."
(Oh, and
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Date: 2006-11-22 04:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-23 08:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2006-11-22 05:06 pm (UTC)on another note, good for nordic countries for closing the gender gap!
have a wonderful week :o)
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Date: 2006-11-23 08:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-22 07:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-22 07:20 pm (UTC)The answer is: A fucking Beluga Whale, Cam.
Good Anubis, assholes like that make me want to get a sex change, just so I don't have to be associated with dumbass males. Stop making my gender look bad, dipshit!
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Date: 2006-11-23 08:53 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2006-11-22 09:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-23 08:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-22 09:47 pm (UTC)Hey, is the wank shelter bar open?
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Date: 2006-11-23 08:54 am (UTC)Perhaps, but I wouldn't wish that shit upon anyone.
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Date: 2006-11-22 10:13 pm (UTC)Thank is all...
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Date: 2006-11-23 08:56 am (UTC)... Shudder.
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Date: 2006-11-23 12:10 am (UTC)...AUGH. It's been a while since I've had good opportunity to use this, so: It burns us, preciousss...
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Date: 2006-11-23 02:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-23 04:41 am (UTC)And Cam, if you find a man of logic and sanity can you tag him as a new species, cause I haven't found one yet. :)
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Date: 2006-11-23 08:58 am (UTC)and water them.no subject
Date: 2006-11-23 06:54 am (UTC)That's a special kind of clue-by-four needed there. In fact, how about a clue-by-twenty-four?
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Date: 2006-11-23 07:21 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2006-11-23 09:55 pm (UTC)But I also have to point out that since humans come out from a womb and are for..say >60%... raised by women, how do this creature and its peers get these ideas?
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Date: 2006-11-24 11:43 am (UTC)Statements like that makes my natural female killing, stabbing and massacre-instincts kick in.
Ah, sweet violence...
I'll go bury myself in CSS-code now, and try to calm down.