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Really don't like to see bashing in your comm or in fandom in general? Find it a negative you wish you could be without?

You're not alone.

Me, [livejournal.com profile] lotus79 and [livejournal.com profile] gabesaunt as mods of [livejournal.com profile] time_and_chips got to talking with some other comm mods about making a joint statement across all participating comms that bashing - be it of a character, fans of a character, a ship, a comm or similarly - is quite simply Right Out and will not be tolerated.

If you are interested in joining to make and shaping this statement, please let me know. You can do so by leaving a comment or if you prefer, e-mail me at camilla.sandman at gmail dot com. We'll be setting up somewhere to talk and setttle all details.

Possible co-operation between comms on issues of bashing and trolling might also be discussed, but this is still very much on the drawing board.

Those who might not be moderators, but would like to personally echo the sentiments will of course also be more than welcome to.

Comments are screened; please let me know if you wish yours to stay so, otherwise I will unscreen it.

ETA: Made a comm, it's [livejournal.com profile] bashmenot.
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Date: 2007-11-29 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dune-drd.livejournal.com
I can't talk for my co-mods (especially as one is afk for a week), but I guess they won't object to the idea. So count [livejournal.com profile] torchwoodcoffee in, even if I haven't seen much bashing there. As [livejournal.com profile] tw_wotd_fic is quite quiet at the moment I don't think we'll have problems there, but well, the more the merrier, right?

Date: 2007-11-29 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
The more, the definitely merrier. Quite simply, I would wish for this to be plastered across fandom so as many as possible get the message it's not cool.

People will of course have time to consult with co-mods and so on, and I'm sure it will take some time getting all details done.

I've put your name down - it's possible I'll make a LJ comm for everyone who wants in, in which case you'll get an invite.

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Date: 2007-11-29 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Good plan - I'd definitely be onboard for making this statement on [livejournal.com profile] who_otp (I haven't seen bashing going on there, but obviously even on a relatively small comm you can't monitor every post for all eternity in case something starts in the comments) and if my co-mod agrees, on [livejournal.com profile] smith_n_jones

Date: 2007-11-29 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
:)

As I said above, you will of course have time to consult with co-mods. Depending on how many are in, I might make a LJ comm (as e-mails forth and back might get a bit cumbersome) to let everyone have a say. You will get an invite if so happens.

And yeah, it's almost impossible to keep track of everything sometimes. Fortunately, there's usually someone who lets us know when something crosses the line on T&C, but one can't always rely on that.

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Date: 2007-11-29 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lin-san.livejournal.com
I'm no mod, but I'd be SO ON BOARD for this.

Especially for a certain fandom that, I feel, has become a walking example of HATE. (*cough*dannyphantom*cough*)

So yes. Good on you mate.

Date: 2007-11-29 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah, I've seen what character bashing has led to in other fandoms - that's why I'd rather not have it infest Doctor Who fandom. Cross your fingers for us?

Date: 2007-11-29 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malaleen.livejournal.com
You already know my feelings about this topic, as LoM has been both the cause and the object of bashing at times. And to be honest, I'm tired of the negativity. If my co-mods agree, I'd like to join [livejournal.com profile] lifeonmartha in this endevour.

Date: 2007-11-29 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You have quite a few co-mods to consult, don't you? Heh. But yes, I would very much love it if LoM was on board.

So tired of the negativity myself. So here's an icon of boys in a pile, always a positive thing.

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Date: 2007-11-29 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaced-oddity.livejournal.com
I'm only the mod of a very small Doctor Who community ([livejournal.com profile] worksonsailors), so there hasn't been any character bashing in there, but I heartily approve of this idea and I'm glad you guys are taking action. ♥ It's quite awesome of you. Character/actor bashing is unnecessary and upsetting to read. :\

Date: 2007-11-29 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
:) And hey, small comms are the best sometimes - larger ones have more potential for conflicts.

I'll be sure to invite you to whatever we set up.

Date: 2007-11-29 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
Excellent plan. I don't think I have any mod powers anywhere anymore but still it is a smashing idea.

Date: 2007-11-29 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
You're welcome to join the sentiment as a LJ user, of course. You needn't be a mod to be not liking the bashing.

Date: 2007-11-29 04:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] scarlettgirl.livejournal.com
As you know, we're on board at [livejournal.com profile] lifeonmartha.

Date: 2007-11-29 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah, and I heartily appreciate it. :)

Shiny icon, BTW. I should probably get out my Christmas TARDIS for the season as well.

Date: 2007-11-29 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] --kali--.livejournal.com
Yes on both counts, although I would have to consult with the co-mods of the comms I'm on, but I'm pretty sure they would agree wholeheartedly.

Date: 2007-11-29 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Sounds awesome. You'll have plenty of time to consult and so on, of course.

Hopefully I should have something set up tomorrow, you will get further information.

Date: 2007-11-29 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I'm not a mod of an applicable community - Sonic Lippy being under the same rules and committee management of the rest of the newsletter groups - but I'd like to sign on as an individual.

It's okay to unscreen this.

Date: 2007-11-29 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Individuals are more than welcome :) I do believe one of the Sarah Jane comms is interested in joining in as well, so perhaps when the time comes, it would be all right to link the statement in the newsletter?

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Date: 2007-11-29 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nnwest.livejournal.com
I do believe that [livejournal.com profile] un_sedentary and I are on-board at [livejournal.com profile] available_very.

Date: 2007-11-29 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
:) Awesome. I will add you to the list - I should hopefully have something set up tomorrow.

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Date: 2007-11-29 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinyopals.livejournal.com
Hey,

I co-mod [livejournal.com profile] ten_n_tyler and while we're small and quiet; we're definitely interested in this.

Date: 2007-11-29 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Excellent. As I've told the others, I'll try and put something together tomorrow, so you'll get further info.

Date: 2007-11-29 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doona-rose.livejournal.com
I haven't checked with the other mods, but I'm pretty sure you can count us in at [livejournal.com profile] tennant_love

Date: 2007-11-29 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
That would be most smashing.

BTW, I've made the offer to Chicklet, but it goes for you too - if you need help with some T!L issue, you need just ask.

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Date: 2007-11-29 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honorh.livejournal.com
T&C is the only DW comm I'm on aside from a couple of fanfic-only comms. The reason is that I know you mods don't abide bashing of any character or 'ship. I'd happily help out any way I could.

Don't need to screen this comment--I don't care who knows I'm against *bashing*.

Date: 2007-11-29 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
We are really, really trying not to have any of it on T&C, yeah. I just... Seen too much of it in other fandoms and what it leads to. It's nowhere pretty.

Your support is appreciated.

Date: 2007-11-29 07:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] avendya.livejournal.com
I'm not the head moderator, but count [livejournal.com profile] bigfinishlove in.

Date: 2007-11-29 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
:) Smashing. Except some more info tomorrow, I'll be setting some stuff up.

Date: 2007-11-29 08:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
I don't think [livejournal.com profile] otp_probably has ever had bashing, but I'm down with this. As an LJ user, if my co-mods aren't in agreement.

Date: 2007-11-29 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Fingers crossed it stays that way.

And thanks, more info will be coming.

Date: 2007-11-29 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misssara11.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] oh_she_knows is definitely in on this. We will still be locked as a whole but a comm announcement about this will be a public post. Thanks for organizing this!

Date: 2007-11-29 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Yeah, it kinda has to be a public statement, otherwise it wouldn't quite be a part of the united front I was hoping for. Your co-mods are with you on this? As with some of the other comms here, it should really be something all mods are behind.

Anyway, more info will follow, but I sincerely need some sleep first.

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Date: 2007-11-29 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prairie-team.livejournal.com
Hi there! The mods of [livejournal.com profile] the_spdn would like to join this. We've made it clear that even if a post has D/R content, we will not link to it if it contains bashing of any sort. Whether in regards to characters, actors/actresses, or fellow fans.

Please feel free to unscreen this. :)

Date: 2007-11-29 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Sure. I'm not sure how you want to handle this being a newsletter, but you are of course very welcome to join.

More info will follow - is this the LJ user you'd prefer being contacted as then?

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Date: 2007-11-29 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kahva.livejournal.com
Not a mod of an LJ comm, but I don't allow bashing on my Yahoo POTC group, and I don't like bashing anywhere, so as an individual, count me on board for being against bashing. No need to screen - if folks don't know by now that I don't like character bashing, well then, they just don't know me very well, now do they? :)

Date: 2007-11-29 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Hehe.

Well, there's always someone missing the obvious ;) Anyway, glad to have anyone who wants along :) More info will come.

Date: 2007-11-29 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendymr.livejournal.com
Me too - I don't mod any public comms, just a private comm of DW fan 'converts' from another fandom, but I've said a number of times that I don't appreciate bashing of any characters and I don't put up with it on my own LJ. Please associate me with this endeavour too, and congratulations and kudos to you guys for organising it.

(Oh, and no need to screen. Supporting this is nothing that needs to be kept secret!)

Date: 2007-11-29 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Thanks.

And yeah, you're very welcome to join in any way. More info will be forthcoming.

Date: 2007-11-30 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonbon71.livejournal.com
I am standing and applauding as I read this. May communities continue to be more about discussion and character analysis than character assassination.

Date: 2007-11-30 12:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] preachelectric
I co-maintain [livejournal.com profile] jackmartha and I know [livejournal.com profile] prettyquotable and I would both be interested.

We haven't had any bashing, but there is always the possibility, and we'd like to avoid it.

Date: 2007-11-30 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chicklet73.livejournal.com
Hallo, I'm in!

Date: 2007-11-30 06:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coneyislandbaby
If RPF comms are welcome I'd like to add [livejournal.com profile] tw_rpf to the list of comms behind this.

Because if there's a segment of fandom familiar with bashing...

It's fine to unscreen this (edited to add permission).

Date: 2007-11-30 04:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] longtimegone
*catches up with flist*

Whew! You know I'm totally all over this. I don't mod any comms, but you've got my 100% support.

Date: 2007-11-30 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livii.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] rose_lives, [livejournal.com profile] unit_family, [livejournal.com profile] dw_femslash, and [livejournal.com profile] tardis_crossing are all on board; I'll have to ask my co-mod at [livejournal.com profile] the_chestertons, but she should be good with it.

No need to screen this comment!
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