Creationists! In Norway!

[misscam]

Saturday: *commences*

Cam: *heads into Drammen to get some groceries*

*spots a stand with 'Is evolution based on facts?'*

Cam: WTF creationists? In Norway? *approaches carefully*

Cam: Yes! WTF creationists! In Norway!

*gets very excited*

*gets up mobile phone and takes picture*

Guy At Stand: *spots* You know, we have a brochure I can give you so you don't have to take a picture.
Cam: *accepts* Thanks. I'll send it to my brother. That's who I'm taking the picture for. He'll enjoy it.
Guy At Stand: Oh?
Cam: He's an atheist.
Guy At Stand: Oh.
Cam: So am I, in fact.
Guy At Stand: You should read it before you send it, then.
Cam: Um, yeah. Thanks.

*exchanges polite goodbyes*

*sends MMS to brother*

*gets a call two minutes later*

Cam: Hey.
Marius: WTF creationsists?
Cam: Yes! I'm in Drammen and I saw a creationist stand! I got a brochure for you.
Marius: Yes! Send it. Have you sent me Doctor Who yet?
Cam: No, sorry. Been working busy.
Marius: Then send those DVDs with the brochure.
Cam: Blah blah work blah blah life
Marius: Blah blah University blah blah life
Cam: I got the Civ IV expansion pack. Blah blah slaughter of enemies blah blah
Marius: Cool. I'm still WoW-ing. [World of Warcraft - Cam ed.] Blah blah slaughter of enemies blah blah
Cam: Right, so I'll send you a package soon.
Marius: Don't forget. Doctor Who and creationists. I'm waiting.

*hangs up*

*realises throughout entire thing have been wearing Meet the Family t-shirt*

*gets the lolz*

When I got home and read the brochure, I was sad to discover it wasn't the 'the Earth is 6000 years old !!!!!eleventy-one!' kind. Woe. They even had a special section on how they weren't trying to get ID or creationism into Norwegian schools. Probably because they'd get laughed out of the country for the mere suggestion. They did proclaim Darwin evil, though. Snort.

I want to see the hardcore lot and take lots of pictures of them and their museums. WTF creationists, dude.

But it did put me in a very bemused mood for the rest of the day.

(I note here for the record that those who choose to believe God is behind evolution and whatever else - I don't share that belief, but I can at least see where it's coming from. Harcore creationists leave me with a sort of weird fascination and much merriment because wtf, truly.)

Comments

[mademoisellenon.livejournal.com]

Have to come to NYC to see that kind. They're spreading. Maybe they're evolving... Or procreating!

Thanks to Netflix, I can finally watch Dr Who in peace. Oh la, I'm so creative.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Dear oh dear. I know they have a museum in California, though. I'm dying to see it and bring back tales of it to Norway.

Huzzah :)

[teenwitch77.livejournal.com]

Lolz. That entire exchange just amused me. I would have loved to see the look on that guy's face.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Heh. He seemed to take it rather well, actually. Kudos to him. I'm probably not the first Norwegian having a WTF moment at him.

[moonburst.livejournal.com]

Hehehe! Awesome shirt. That's made my day. :)

[misscam.livejournal.com]

:)Rather made mine as well.

[shandydann]

shandydann *sniggers*

Shandydann's Dad: *sniggers*

BOTH:*Spot T-shirt, burst out laughing*

We never see WTF Creationists in Aberdeen either. Although we used to have extremist christians that would perform music in the shopping court and tell random teenagers wearing velvet that they would go to hell. Funnily enough after 3 months of this the police got fed up of them and stopped them doing it.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

The fact that I was actually wearing that t-shirt - still am! - was like the icing on the cake. It's actually from a BBC series called "Walking with Beats" that I loved.

What a charming lot, truly.

[evilstorm.livejournal.com]

Civ IV! Civ IV! ...Okay, I haven't actually played it, but omg so pretty and omg music so nice. Ahahaha.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

You should play it. I'm loving it so far.

[maureenlycaon.livejournal.com]

*falls over laughing*

Genuine, authentic Norwegian creationists outside of an asylum! You should catch some and put them in a qualified zoo for breeding -- they've got to be a very rare species indeed.

*sobering up on second thought* Sweet Jebus. Is no place safe any more?

Also, I love your t-shirt.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

First time I'd seen them, that's for sure. Very exciting and vaguely disturbing. But they aren't in great numbers, so it is really a curiosity here and that's about it.

:) I adore it too. Yay BBC.

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

I've never actually met a real creationist, soft or hardcore. Though some of the religious nutters with microphones that hang around Bourke Street at night might be creationists, I'm not sure...

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Apparently, something like 5% of Australians are creationists, so you should be able to find one.

[--kali--.livejournal.com]

I'll fight all creationists for picking on Darwin - he was a nice chap.

[jonquil.livejournal.com]

I saw a bumper sticker in North Carolina once stating that Darwin had gone to Hell. I was so very not amused.

[wintergreen126.livejournal.com]

and you were wearing the Meet the Family t-shirt! haha, oh, the irony. that's priceless. i wonder if the guy noticed that...

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure, actually. Possibly not, cos it would require staring at my breast region. If he did, all the more LOL.

[puredeadthingy.livejournal.com]

*notes for RS*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

RS?

[elfie-samurai.livejournal.com]

That convo with the Guy At Stand is the sort of thing I've always wanted to do but never had the chance. *amused* Go you!

And that shirt is made of awesome. Is it something I could get online somewhere?

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I don't know - as mentioned, it was made for a BBC series call "Walking With Beasts" (which is awesome) and I bought it in 2002, I think. That is a while back and it's therefore very possible it's out of print. But you could look at some BBC shop websites, I guess. Never know.

See, when I was talking to him, my mind was all on the MMS I was preparing to send so I didn't really mentally check my conversation. I just blurted out the truth, even if it was vaguely rude. Distracted brains are dangerous, it seems.

[padawanpooh.livejournal.com]

*sporfle* - Don't you love it when T Shirt + RL meet so beautifully!

I've just finished watching a 2 hour documentary on UK Channel 4 about the "End of Time"-er fundies...it truly is terrifying how this wave of un-reason is sweeping over us...

*runs to skeptic.com to wash out brain*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Un-reason has always been about. It's just more painful these days, in light of everything.

Good place :)

[furius.livejournal.com]

That shirt's brilliant.

Hardcore creationists can be very disturbing creatures, but still far far tamer than the fire-and-brimstone evangelists...

*shudders from memory*

Also, I think your parents gave you both awesome names.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Heh. My brother has a Roman name and me an Etruscian. Same region ;)

And almost all pale in disturbance to Fred Phelps. He got serious issues, man.

I missed Doctor Who!

[airofmystery.livejournal.com]

Please, Miss Cam, forgive my sin of missing Doctor Who when I could've stayed home instead.

-Air

Re: I missed Doctor Who!

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Tsk, tsk.

Of course, episodes are available online. Hum.

[undeadgoat.livejournal.com]

If you lived in the states, you would find WTF creationists significantly less amusing, as they are everywhere.

Also, your summary of you and your brother's conversation is the most masterful thing since like EVAR.

[mickat24.livejournal.com]

You know what? I totally agree with you about creationism and the ridiculing of science, though I am what I suppose you'd term a soft-core creationist, myself. I remember having a long email discussion with a hardcore Rabbi about evolution and its acceptability in Judaism (well, Orthodox Judaism, anyway), and why exactly it is avoided in the Orthodox world; I said that I, having training in both biology and psychology, and have rather extensive knowledge of evolutionary theory and its tenets, and I don't see that how they truly contradict with the tenets of Judaim. At any rate, the discussion devolved (Ha!) into me being completely unimpressed by what he had to say, and I told him that, to my view, science and religion should never be at odds, God being the source of both. However, I asked him what A Good Jew's response should be if there were scientific evidence that incontrovertibly disproved some tenet of Judaism. He said that, of course, we should completely ignore that little scientific tidbit, and move on.

Yeah. So that was when I snorted, and the conversation was ended. By him, I believe. Guess he couldn't me and all me brilliance. :) At any rate, though, I know that if something like that ever happened, my own faith would be very seriously challenged.

[mickat24.livejournal.com]

And like, whoa, excuse all the grammatical incorrectness in that comment. I'm too tired to fix it though. :)

[kippurbird.livejournal.com]

One of my favorite things about creationists is this trunk fish of theirs. There's the regular Jesus trunk fish. Then there's the Darwin trunk fish with little legs. Then there's this one of a Jesus fish eating the Darwin Fish, and the Jesus Fish says "Truth".

So I take it to mean that the Jesus Fish is proving evolution because it's eating the Darwin fish, proving that it is unfit to survive. Rather like Darwin would think.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Because fishs = winning arguments? Quite the logic.