Happy Days

[misscam]

I'm back at my place, and with new computer (now I just have to get all my stuff from the laptop over to here - sigh) and my lovely broadband. I even got myself a new webcam that I'm going to install and I've been amusing myself by playing LotR: The Third Age. Now there's a game that would make Tolkien wonder if someone rewrote the book while he was dead. Still, somewhat amusing.

The good news is that the list of missing Norwegian have gone down and we're looking at far less dead than we suspected. This is good, though it hardly diminished the tragedy of it all. We're looking at around a hundred dead, which is still a huge blow to our little land, but not as much as we feared. And compared to Sweden, we were lucky.

Sweden mourns their dead

In more disgusting news, check out the image in this Norwegian newsstory. Apparently, some American Baptist Church is hoping Sweden loses 20,000 as they are "a dirty, disobidient generation" and have "satanic laws". Charming. This is apparently Fred Phelps's church. I see how he got his lovely reputation all right. You'll be happy to know, Fred, that Sweden is missing thousands, though not as many as you would have wanted.

I wish I could smack him with a whale. Then I would get nasty.

ETA: I found their website. Um, yeah...

ETA 2: What Phelps said

Oh ye Gods. I didn't think it was possible for me to be this angry.

Comments

[silvery-lass.livejournal.com]

Forget the whale, nuke the bastard.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Alas, a nuke would hit more than him.

Personalized nuke, that would be something.

[sliven.livejournal.com]

A whale?
I'd better not print out how I'd like to treat him... So angry! And I don't even really know anyone who was affected.
*Grrr*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

No, but you are Swedish, so you have greater reason to be personally offended. *I'm* personally offended, in fact.

When I invade the world, I shall be sure to give old Phelps to Sweden for... reeducation.

[honorh.livejournal.com]

Fred Phelps is a psycho. He's been tossed out of every reputable Christian organization and church; therefore, he decided to start his own, which basically consists of his family and in-laws--well, those who haven't disowned themselves and blabbed to the papers about his abuse. Last year, he and his followers dragged their sorry crud to Alaska, where they picketed the largest, most conservative Baptist church in town because they didn't think the pastor was tough enough on gays. I was frankly disappointed that they didn't picket my church; I'd have considered it a badge of honor.

Anyway, all that is to say: do not, repeat, do *not* take anything he says as indicative at all of the way American Christians think of the disaster or, for that matter, of Sweden.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Every country has its nasty extremeties, it seems.

But when I was in the States, I did notice a certain trend among conservative Christians to think Scandinavia TEH EVOL. I wasn't always amused.

[reia.livejournal.com]

Apparently, some American Baptist Church is hoping Sweden loses 20,000 as they are "a dirty, disobidient generation" and have "satanic laws". Charming. This is apparently Fred Phelps's church. I see how he got his lovely reputation all right. You'll be happy to know, Fred, that Sweden is missing thousands, though not as many as you would have wanted.

He what now? I couldn't read the article, but DAMN! As an American I would like to personally apologize for this fucker. I wonder if these people ever stop to think that Jesus would surely not approve of their stupid signs or mindless hate-spouting. "God hates fags" indeed.

Need any help swinging that whale?

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Well, basically the article said that the church claimed that the 20,000 Swedes that were in Thailand was there to rape and abuse little Thai boys girls and they're a bit missed because Sweden convicted a guy named Abe Green - who I believe is follower of their ways - for something. I'm guessing it was something nasty about gay he said that fell under libel/slander laws or something.

Um, yeah. http://www.godhatessweden.com/

[beregondsgirl.livejournal.com]

*bangs head on wall*

That's the type of person that makes Christians look bad... I may not approve of everything you guys do over there, but I don't believe God hates anyone, and I'm definitely not going to rejoice that people are dead!

*grumbles*

I admit that I haven't been watching much about the tsunami, partially because the whole thing just seems kind of unbelievable to me.

*hugs to Scandinavia, even if e-hugs really just aren't the same as real hugs* I'm sorry.

*And megahugs to the people where the Tsunami actually hit!* :(

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's not the best spokesperson for Christianity out there, that's for sure.

But geez, it's not like little Scandinavia is hurting anyone and the way Phelps and ilk rant about how we're all bedhopping hoes over here you'd think we were guilty of some greater crime than following our convictions. Geez.

[ekwy.livejournal.com]

*salutes* Miss Cam, ma'am, if you'd ever need me in your army, I'm only one country away.

*SMITES* I can't believe there are people dumb enough to believe that shit. It was a NATURAL DISASTER. Most of the people dead and missing are KIDS. Are there really people believing that these children deserved to die? That somehow they earned it? *snarls* This... cult are not Christians. I don't even think they qualify as human.

When Phelps die, he's in for a BIG surprise...

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I shall keep that in mind. Maybe there could be a Swedish company... You'd wield lutefisk just as well as Norwegians, I'm sure.

Yeah, Phelps think gays deserve death just for what they are and so do Swedes, apparently. As I said, he's a charming fellow.

[galadhir.livejournal.com]

I'm kind of insulted that he hasn't got a 'God hates Britain' page on there. God forbid that someone like that should approve of us!

What can I say? I find it hard to believe that he's for real. Surely there aren't really people who believe this? It's quite scary.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Mr Phelps is apparently quite infamous and real over in the US.

But I'm sure he hates Britain too, he just hasn't gotten around to it yet.

[athena799.livejournal.com]

Do you think it would be worth my time to send them hate mail? *seethes*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Not really, as they'd probably enjoy it.

At the other end of the scale

[pipibluestockin]

A crisis brings out the best and worst in people.

I rather liked the attached article - a Buddhist monk in Canada has decided that best way he can help is to sell his temple to raise money.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Asia-Tsunami/Sell-the-temple-monks-tsunami-sacrifice/2005/01/06/1104832215289.html

Re: At the other end of the scale

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Wow. That's quite a gesture.

I was also impressed by how tiny, poor, poor East Timor is also giving. Heck, they could use help themselves, yet they're giving. Amazing.

[b2wm.livejournal.com]

I'd almost swear it was a troll, but I don't hang around that sort. I mean - If you have something relevant to say (and cuss words are not relevant, you tolerant, loving, sodomite Swedes) contact us at info@godhatesamerica.com

Jesussezwhat? I don't practice any particular religion, but at the heart of Christianity supposed to be, you know, love?

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I guess these people are reading a different kind of Bible, or something.

But then again, in the older parts of the Bible, God isn't always that nice.

[elvea-aure.livejournal.com]

Wouldn't it be ironic and lovely poetic justice if a tsunami came and swept that man off, then crushed him against a building, and as he was experiencing his very last seconds, pushed him against something that severed him to pieces?


Grrr. People like that make Elvy angry.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Couldn't happen to a nicer fellow, either.

I'm right with you on the anger part.

[sinneahtes.livejournal.com]

*grits teeth* Fred Phelps. That... moron was going to come to West Hartford and protest at my very university about how we're too tolerant of gays -- how we've got a fairly open gay population (both students and professors) and especially because some students dared put on a production of The Laramie Project and the university allowed it.

What happened -- his lackies showed up with signs outside one of our entrances (the universe totally banned them from setting foot on the grounds) -- but Fred Phelps himself did not. Oh well. Like I mind.

I wish I could say he's not from the same state I was born in. But there's not much I can do about that.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I guess the man was busying somewhere else. After all, so many gays and so few hissers.

*rolls eyes*

The leader of Vigrid, a Norwegian neo-Nazi organisation used to live in my neighbourhood, so I feel your pain.

[gehayi.livejournal.com]

You know, it's creatures like this--I refuse to accord him the honorable title of "person"--who make me wish that magic was real. I could have so much fun, casting Full-Body Bind on him and his entire cult, then conjuring up a Tyrannosaurus Rex to step on them.

This is the first I've heard of any Scandinavia hatred, by the way. Granted, I have heard many unflattering comments about Canada lately, but then I live in the vast and uncharted intellectual wastelands of American suburbia, so I take such comments for what they are worth...NOTHING.

My deepest apologies go to you and your country for the vileness spilling from this unspeakable monstrosity posing as a human and a Christian. I feel a desperate yearning to fling Phelps to the lions, except that would be cruel to the lions.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Not before you'd led Sweden have some fun, surely?

I guess I notice the Scandinavia hatred more as my country tends to make news of us being mentioned somewhere in the great wide world. The latest I noticed came up during debates in the US about legalizing gay marriage, which Scandinavia has done, so some to the Religious Right felt a need to make us all evil and it was implied we all would turn to raping pets and what-not. *shakes head*

BTW, love the icon. Where'd you get it? Can I snag?

[siraj.livejournal.com]

And the thought goes up among the sensible American youth: "Why haven't we killed him yet and made it look like a freak accident?"

Miss Cam, on behalf of the American people, I apologize for Phelps... We'll kill him as soon as we can.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

A freak accident involving very large barrels of acid...

God Hates America too?

[erhothwen.livejournal.com]

I was reading through the FAQ at godhatesfags...yeah, more Phelps stuff, anti-homosexuality, anti-Sweden, pro-September 11th, pro-AIDS (even the ones given through blood transfusions, they said). How utterly awful.

And www.godhatessweden.com wasn't the only bs site. Apparently there's a godhatesamerica site too. I wonder what other godhates_______ sites there are.

I'm so sorry a man like him is representing himself from America.

Re: God Hates America too?

[misscam.livejournal.com]

There's God Hates Canada, at least. I guess he hasn't gotten around to the others. He probably hates all countries for various reasons. He feels like the type.

Prety icon ;)

[lotus79.livejournal.com]

"Swedish kids being taught it's OK to be gay is a worse fate than being kidnapped for sex" (http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jan2005/Kristian_Walker_1-5-2005.pdf)

*opens mouth*

*closes mouth again*

You know, despite 911 and Bali, I really didn't believe there could possibly be that much hate in the world.

And according to the news I saw last night, it looks like he was never at the hospital, but most likely killed in the tsunami. :(

In other news, Howard finally got something right! http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11873403%5E2703,00.html

As evidenced by even the opposition agreeing with him: http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11875375%255E1702,00.html

I couldn't believe it when they said it was the biggest contribution, though. We gave more than America? Shame on Mr Bush!

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I know. Easy for that coward to sit in the US and say this shit, not seeing close-up the death and destruction.

Good for Australia. Would be a shame if this turned into a "Who can give the most?" contest, though. That's not quite what it this is about.

*hisses at the Bush, just because*

Psst! Get on MSN sometime!

[starpaint.livejournal.com]

Boo.

I'm a reader and an occasional worker, and you don't know who I am, but damn it. I'm somewhere underneath an avalanche of rage right now. People can be so disgusting, unsympathetic, monstrous, bloodthirsty beasts...

ARGH.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Sometimes people can be all that, yeah. And sometimes they can be great. And sometime they're both.

Also, feel free to comment whenever. This is an open place.

[chem-nerd.livejournal.com]

If it makes you feel any better, we ALL hate Phelps...sicko bastard. It really pisses me off when people who claim to be Christian follow Genesis and Leviticus to the letter, and frickin' beyond, but ignore the ENTIRE New Testament(except some of Paul's more mysogynistic bits)
I'd like to direct their attention to a couple of verses:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. John3:16" That's right, WHOSOEVER.

"He that is without sin, let him cast the first stone. That Acts verse I can never remember the reference for. If I wasn't so sick, I'd look it up." Only one person in the history of the world was qualified to cast that first stone...you'll note he never casted it.

They don't even do that

[greyladybast.livejournal.com]

It really pisses me off when people who claim to be Christian follow Genesis and Leviticus to the letter, and frickin' beyond,

Except that this type of religious nutcase doesn't even follow Leviticus to the letter-----only the parts that justify hatred. They utterly ignore the parts that say stuff like this:

"The Lord said to Moses, "If any one sins and commits a breach of faith against the Lord by deceiving his neighbor in a matter of deposit or security, or through robbery, or if he has oppressed his neighbor or has found what was lost and lied about it, swearing falsely----in any of all the things which men do and sin therein, when one has sinned and become guilty, he shall restore what he took by robbery, or what he got by oppression, or the deposit which was committed to him, or the lost thing which he found, or anything about which he has sworn falsely; he shall restore it in full, and shall add a fifth to it, and give it to him who it belongs, on the day of his guilt offering."
Lev. 6:1-5

Or this:

"When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field to its very border, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the poor and the sojourner; I am the Lord your God."
Lev. 19:9-10

"You shall not oppress your neighbor or rob him. The wages of a hired servant shall not remain with you all night until the morning. You shall not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block before the blind, but you shall fear your God: I am the Lord."
Lev. 19:13-14

"You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason with your neighbor, lest you bear sin because of him. You shall not take vengeance or bear any grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord."
Lev. 19:17-18

There's quite a bit more, too, about justice and mercy and hospitality and how to be a good neighbor. And I haven't even touched on the oft-mentioned, oftener-broken prohibitions against things like eating shellfish or cheeseburgers or wearing blended fabric.

So yeah, the self-proclaimed "Bible literalists" take the book literally only so far as it suits their prejudices. After that, they either ignore or twist it, or pretend that it's not really that relevant to today's society, except where it justifies hating certain people.

Hypocrites.

Bast

[aervir.livejournal.com]

TEH STUPIDITY. TEH OUTRAGEOUS BEHAVIOUR. It burns.
*headdesk*
Fortunately, Phelps seems to be such an extreme nutter that he isn't even representative of the American Christian right anymore. But you should smack him with a whale nevertheless. With a big one.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

If he ever gets to be that, I'll be weeping for America. Sheesh.

Big whale smack, aye!

[belegcuthalion.livejournal.com]

Dear, I really hope you understand that this lousy liar and misuser of the Holy Bible doesn't represent any christian with a working reason and a true belief.

I'm a Baptist, too, and I'm fairly sure I won't meet that man in eternity.

I'm really sorry, Camilla. What an evil idiot.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Hey, it's not like I've grown up void of contact with Christians, so I am aware he does not reprsent the majority. But there mere fact that he is there and says what he says pisses me off.