Low insults and CSI high wank

[misscam]

Damn

There seems to be shit going on there at several levels, including by some f_w members. However - rape as a cheat shot on people you don't like? Fucking *low*. Seriously. And I say this as someone who's had the extremely unfortuate displeasure of ending up in the statistics, with the chance of getting the guy rated at very low to none. Recognising it's a real, serious problem and a widespread crime? Good. Giving the victims of it the support and *respect* they need for getting through what is one of the most degrading things that can be done to another human being? Good. Realising no women ever ask to be raped and kicing any sort of argument of that in the arse? Very good. Giving real rapists all the contempt you can muster? Good. Using the fact that it's a widespread crime to insinuate anyone you don't like or any guy as 'having the mindset of it'? Shitty. Real shiity.

Arsehole doesn't equal rapist. In fact, from my admittedly limited experience of talking to others who've had it happen to them, the guy often doesn't behave like an asshole at all and you'd never think he was a rapist - up until he rapes. So, just because you don't like a guy or a group of guys don't mean they would rape someone. And similary, just because you like a guy doesn't mean he wouldn't. (Of course, I'm talking here of people you may not know too well yet. The better you know someone, the higher the chances of you knowing the inner workings. Even then, surprises do occur.)

So next time you're looking for an insult to really rile up someone, forgo that one, would you? It's low, it's cheap and you ain't crusading on behalf of those who have suffered it, let me tell you that.

Now, wasn't that cheerful?

In other cheerful news, Bush gets all testy

Bush said the Geneva Convention's ban was "very vague" and required clarification. "What does that mean, 'outrages upon human dignity?' That's a statement that is wide open to interpretation."

Read for yourself - article three is the one Bush is talking about. I don't find it very vague, but maybe that's just me.

Meanwhile, Sweden votes. Should be interesting to see of Sweden tosses out a leftish government just a year after Norway voted one in.

CSI wank is bloody everywhere

Now at the Jump the Shark website. Choice quotes:

Finale. Let me get this straight - for 6+ years the show runners have been beating us over the head with how ethical Grissom is and how he has told Sarah no on several occasions. Now we are supposed to believe that he has been banging her for a while now? How utterly professional of him! Couldn't they afford to hire an actress (or actor) who didn't actually work for him to play his lover? Maybe Medelsohn is trying to justify a possible skanky relationship of her own (with either her boss or someone who works for her) with this crap. I would rather they went back to making him deaf instead of being a hypocrite.

GRISSOM AND SARA DID NOT DO IT IN THE FINALE! But if we find out that they have done it, will do it, or actually did do it and they just didn't show us, then CSI has DEFINITELY jumped the shark! Nothing could be worse than having the two main characters, who have no chemistry WHATSOEVER, sleep together. Hats off to the dumbass writers who thought that one up.

To see Grissom and Sara together was horrifying. This resembled incest to me, Sara has deep issues about father figures, which is exactly what Grissom is to her. This show is doomed after so many great seasons if they continue with this storyline. Although I normally hate the dream motif, I truly hope this is just Sara's dream or Grissom's nightmare.

Final 60 seconds of the season 6 finale. When did it become acceptable for the boss to bang his employee? So help me if I see one more comment on how it is ok since they are in love my head might explode. Are the producers hoping that the viewers who do stay with the show next season will end up hating Petersen so much that they won't care when he gets killed off at the end of the season after his contract ends? Gee then those lucky few still watching can enjoy Jorja Fox doing her whole angst thing for season 8. I guess it is too much to hope that CBS will fire her again this summer, that way no one will be exposed to the Electra and Daddy show in September.

I have read that the scene was suppose to be more about two people being comfortable with each other than about sex. I truly did not see this. I asked my mother does she kneel at the bed when my father is talking. Let's just say the answer was no. I thought I should ask a couple that had been together less than my parents 40+ years. I asked three people who have been in a relationship ranging from 2 years to 17 years and the answer was the same. Two of them saw the show and while they ageed that it did not seem as if this was Gil and Sara's first time it also did not seem like they were a true couple. Shame on CSI for going that route.

hey were smart and abandoned the GSR story line in season one when the demographics said NO NO NO to the relationship, only to bow to the pressure of whiney teenboppers with no sense of what real relationships are. for the last 3 shows of the 6th season and includeing the finale, there is no way they are get out of the water. they have been stabbed, beaten, axed and shot. the sharks have already HIT the prey and stunned them. with william petersen leaving (well not being in the series MUCH next season) there is no hope for the show to continue. i think the writers will be surprised when the find the lack of viewers next year AFTER the first show. strange how the HIGHEST rated shows were LADY HEATHER and the LOWEST rated shows were SARA oreinted. that SHOULD have told the powers that be SOMETHING...guess they were blinded by the sun on the water.

I see the Guardian have a few says on it as well and a few on YTDAW are feeling a bit testy.

Brace for season seven, people.

Oh yeah, the wankshelter bar is open at all times these days. What's your posion?

Comments

[ashiya.livejournal.com]

>:( It seems that the ranter in question has no sense of originality. Come on, daddy issues and incest again? Sheesh. Maybe someone should go hand the dictionary to this person and show them where to find the definition of "incest".

When will these people learn to stop beating a deader-than-dead horse, really?

Hit me with all the screwdrivers you have! *runs to the bar*

[winterfox.livejournal.com]

One of those silly little bints also pulled the "oh, they must live in their parents' basement", which is even less original. Buh.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

*shakes head* 'Incest' seems to have become a pet word, or something. It gets treated a bit like it would win all arguments.

*hits you with screwdrivers*

[winterfox.livejournal.com]

Oh, yes. That thing with implying that there's got to be rapists among the ranks of f_w members still baffles me. I don't get involved with ginmar's antics or wank, and I acknowledge that it wasn't she who said this, but... but if there're accusations flung around targeted at some (emphasis on some) of her f-list, well, I daresay it's pretty justified based on this alone.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

It is quite... I mean, I remember the stuff with honorh and some of the stuff that gets flung about as insults just makes me very uneasy.

[colorstoobright.livejournal.com]

How did the wank ever get to Jump The Shark???? Before you know it, it's going to spread to Amazon, Gmail and iTunes. I don't even think I'm exaggerating at this point.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

The Wank That Ate the World.

Dear Ol' Dubya

[jocelyncs.livejournal.com]

On the "Bush gets all testy" front, do you have access to the news/commentary show Countdown With Keith Olberman? He's been covering this issue (and others) for awhile now, and had fantastic things to say about it.

After the 9/11 anniversary and the Geneva Convention "vagueness" kerfluffle" (vague, my ass, being the general sentiment of pretty much everyone with a brain), he and his commentors essentially said, "How dare you take a nation's grief and fear and turn it into a political weapon that labels every person who questions your very dangerous policies as 'aiding terrorists'?"

I wound up watching Bush's testy speech. There seems to be a lot of "I", "me", and "my" in his speeches lately. He even said something directly to the effect of "All that matters is MY point!" to one of the reporters.

Pretty ironic, since American government is by no means a "my" entity, even for the Chief Executive. Who the hell cares what YOU want, Dubya? Who cares what YOU think or what YOUR interest is? Your job is to explain to the people how your actions will impact THEM, in excruciating detail. Don't like it, resignation worked for Nixon, ya know!

I'm hearing "impeachment" and "impeachable offense" bandied about a lot more among the pundits and even mainstream news lately. It's a positively blissful thought.

Re: Dear Ol' Dubya

[misscam.livejournal.com]

No, I don't, but I did hear about it. Think someone on my flist recapped it or something.

Bush does seem to be getting increasingly isolated, doesn't he? Now also in the way he's talking.

[evanesce.livejournal.com]

...see, and I heard 'raped' the other day, used as a good slang word. ie, 'The new Incubus album raped'. And then my jaw dropped and I went, "...how....why....you....no."

Can I just say that it kind of scares me a little, how casually that word gets bandied around now?

[siraj.livejournal.com]

... that hurts... that REALLY hurts... just... damn! Another to add to the list with "gay" and "fag"... oy vey.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Sigh. Nazi has had the same happen to it, really.

[dreams-of-him.livejournal.com]

First of all, Dubyah. I apologize. He's a moron. I didn't vote for him...twice!

Second, have the people crying incest over GSR taken a look at WP's actual spouse? Geez, people...get a grip.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Probably not.

Though I have seen pictures of Marg and Billy kissing as proof of the GCR ship.

[falena]

*skipping all the headache-inducing parts of the post* I need something strong, please. Whatever the house recommends.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Aquavit, as always.

[freezer818.livejournal.com]

As soon as I saw "rape" and "insult" in the same sentence, I knew you were referring to Ginmar.

Sad, no?

[misscam.livejournal.com]

To be fair, the comment on the rapists of f_w wasn't made by her, but by someone in a comment on her LJ. Fair's fair.

[paintedrainbows.livejournal.com]

Eh, I have some info for you that might make you smile:

Remember the whole babydoll stupidity? Don't know if you get the x factor on tv - but she was on it, and Simon Cowell totally slandered her. I'll upload it as soon as I can.

*clings to the bar*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

What what what? How do you know it was her? What did she say?

This sounds to be very amusing.

[--kali--.livejournal.com]

However - rape as a cheat shot on people you don't like?

Oh FFS - what is wrong with people these days?

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Same thing that's always been wrong, me thinks. People be people, often horridly so.

[silvery-lass.livejournal.com]

I can see why Bush has problem understanding Geneva Convention, its in english, a language he seems to have some problems to master.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

You might be on to something there.

[saturnianali8r.livejournal.com]

Can you pass me a lot of daiquiris? I'm so tired of all the CSI wank.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Have a trainload. I think it's needed.

[leila82.livejournal.com]

I just heard about that whole Bush/Geneva Convention —
“clarification” bullshit (I've been absent from the news for a few days), and OMGWTF is he thinking?? I know he's insane, but has he completely lost his mind? People in his own party are against him, and instead of admitting he's wrong, he's having a little tantrum! The worst part of it is, I suspect that in the end, we're going to end up doing those “modifications” or whatever we're calling them, and then regretting them oh, about 10 years down the line? When it's too late to change things. Kind of like we did with Iraq.

[juliejordan.livejournal.com]

"Arsehole doesn't equal rapist"

Can you tell this to fanfic writers? Too often a writer will use rape as a plot device to get their OTP hooked up. If a character is a bit of a bastard, the fanturds seem to assume he'd automatically rape someone just because he has an attitude problem. The next time I see a fic where character A rapes character B and character B runs into the arms of character C and B&C have magical healing sex and become twu wuvers, I'll scream. I don't think this has happened in the Doctor Who fandom ficworld yet, although it wouldn't shock me if it has or when it does.

[aelie-baby.livejournal.com]

Arsehole doesn't equal rapist. In fact, from my admittedly limited experience of talking to others who've had it happen to them, the guy often doesn't behave like an asshole at all and you'd never think he was a rapist - up until he rapes.

My mother still asks me why it is I broke up with the boyfriend that raped me because he was such a "good Christian boy" that was apparently marriage-material for me.

Is it possible to acquire a margarita on the rocks? That whole little mess has given me a mighty urge for a drink.

[visp.livejournal.com]

"If there's any comparison between the compassion and decency of the American people and the terrorist tactics of extremists, it's flawed logic," Bush said. "It's just — I simply can't accept that."

Growing animated, he said, "It's unacceptable to think that there's any kind of comparison between the behavior of the United States of America and the action of Islamic extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective."

*headdesk* Atrocities happen when you forget that we're all human, and being them doesn't = evil and inhuman, any more than being us = infallible and perfect.

[mahala.livejournal.com]

"If there's any comparison between the compassion and decency of the American people and the terrorist tactics of extremists, it's flawed logic," Bush said. "It's just — I simply can't accept that."

That's actually the one true thing he has said, albeit without realizing it. Because the compassion and decency of the American people is VERY different from the terrorist tactics of our extremist government.

As for the second sentence...well, he dives right back into incoherent nonsense. *sigh*

[sinneahtes.livejournal.com]

Arsehole doesn't equal rapist.

I actually saw that wank and did SO much headdesking over that "Would you be surprised if some of them were rapists?" remark. For all the person who said it knows, there are rapists on Ginmar's friends list, pretending to be nice and agreeing with them, as well. :\ (I'm not an F_W/otf_wank fan, and actually used to like reading Ginmar's journal, just to say so I don't look like I'm immediately siding with the "pointers and laughers vs. the notoriously angry feminist and her friends," and certainly not trying to suggest some of Ginmar's friends/people agreeing with her really *are* rapists. Just saying a certain argument is an inappropriate thing to say.)

That one messy wank, though. :\

[jessickuh.livejournal.com]

I really should find some people to watch the show with this year. Sure it'll take away from my Grissom ogling if those people try to talk during the show. Sure they would probably only watch for the science, and not for the pretty that is GSR. But...

Oh hell, I'm watching CSI by myself again this season.