*is mad*

[misscam]

Always so nice to know one is not even worth a personal apology. Thanks. Really.

And why is people going all 'oh, you're a bad friend if you don't forgive?' Dude, I am not telling you how you should feel or what is right for you, so *kindly* don't attempt to guilt me or go holier-than-thou.

*rubs temples*

Aaah... Ignore me. I'm feeling angry and frustrated and hurt and vengeful and tired... Not my best side, obviously.

And you probably have no idea what I'm on about in the first place, so... Yeah. It's been one of those days.

Comments

[ginmar.livejournal.com]

Don't diminish what you feel. I was thinking about anger the other day, and unless you're the sort of person who has temper tantrums----which you don't seem to be----your reaction is entirely within bounds. To compound matters, you both inhabit a circle of friends who seem determined to 'make nice' and get it over with, and if that means kicking shit in the eyes of all the people she hurt, well, oops, too bad for you, right?

She wouldn't be getting away with this shit without all these people crowding around her, cooing, "Oh, welcome back."

I think grudges and willpower get a bad rap. I know I won't forgive her till she apologizes, and does it in a sincere way, not that, "I'm-sorry-if-I-hurt-anyone's-feelings-way-feel-sorry-for-me-I'm-confused!" kind of way.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I'm more the 'able to hold a grudge until hell freezes over' than the temper tantrum kind, really.

I try not to let it annoy me that others forgive her - it's their choice, after all - but I do get seriously peeved when people are essentially telling me I'm a bad person because I won't forgive. My life, my choice. And when I then find out I'm not even on the radar of those she considers deserve an apology - well, I get testy. And as you said, we inhabit the same circles, which means I am constantly reminded of this. *sighs* It's just... I was born and raised in Northern Norway, where you bear your hardships and shut up in most cases. We're much less verbal about our worries than, say, a lot of Americans. And I'm also raised to be tough, so face shit in life with good humour. So, when things bring me down too much, I beat myself up a bit over it. Which of course isn't terribly helpful in the first place, but there you are.

[ginmar.livejournal.com]

Your stoicism is to be commended, obviously. But when I see comments like this----If your friends cannot accept your apology and forgive you, then they are not truly your friends.---I know which side I'm on. I'd frankly advise you to rant, bitch, moan. There's a healthy difference between ranting and complaining. I think ranting is healthy; whining is not. You rant about stupid things that are wrong. You whine about stuff you got yourself into. Let it out. Vent. Of course, I know there's the culteral divide to consider, but it can be helpful.

The problem is, I think, is not just Thalia and her enablers. It's the realization that a lot of the problems that seemed to characterize bad fanfiction writers also seem to be infecting other circles---like the ones that you and Thalia belong to.

I just keep picturing her as winding up like Jayson Blair or Stephen Glass----two reporters here who were recently exposed as having falsified major stories for major publications. Give her ten years, and I'll buy you a drink if I'm wrong.

Er...Norwegian chocolate? I have Russian chocolate to trade. It's divine. And therapeutic. Self-discipline truly, I find, truly makes the occasional indulgence especially sweet. Balance is good. :)

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I'll take that offer for a drink. Although, if you're right, I'll probably need a drink even more so. I'll probably need absinthe by then.

Rating probably is healthy, I'm just used to doing it on the inside. Hence why I didn't confront Thalia directly, which I could have. Although now she says she will give personal apologies, so we'll see how that goes. (Watch me not hold my breath in anticipation)

There does seem to be a change in the PPC circles of late, and I'm not sure how I feel about it. Or just what it is and potentially what to do about it.

Russian chocolate is good. We get it cheap from across the border, but I still prefer Norwegian. Belgium trumps both, though. Now *there's* divine chocolate.