To Bashers, with love from Cam and Dalek-Pet

[misscam]

Dear fanfic author,

So, you don't like Sara Sidle/Boromir/Ron Weasley/Denethor/Catherine Willows/Gimli/Tonks/Arwen/Sofia/Mick*/Insert Name Here and think she/he is AntiChrist-y**/evil/stupid/evil and abusing/slutty/ugly/whiny/useless/Man Lurch/kissus interruptus/Insert Evil Here? Gee, I couldn't tell that from reading your fanfics at all. But here's a thought - how you feel about the character isn't always how the other fictional characters in the world you're writing feels. (Shock, horror!, I know.) In fact, it's kind of an important difference. And if you want to write fanfic and not just vessels for your dislikes that have utterly no connection to Canon, stick to how the characters feel about each other.

Thank ye kindly.

And if I see one more appaling bashing fic from you, I'm sending my pet Dalek. EX-TERM-INATE!

Cam

* Mick from Water Rats, included just for lotus79's reading pleasure

** Yes, according to some, Sara Sidle is apparently the Anti-Christ. I think Adam would have a few things to say about that (and those who get that reference are cool. And also a little nerdy).

Comments

[lotus79.livejournal.com]

Thank ye.

No Mick bashing! He didn't know they were about to kiss!

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Even if it was damn sodding inconvinient.

Still, I forgive you, Mick. You're hot.

[chem-nerd.livejournal.com]

I thought it was usually Cath and Sofia who got CSI antiChristed...
Dumb fanbrats.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

They all do, I guess. Villiany for all!

[millikov.livejournal.com]

Let's get happy, let's get gay, let's do it the Nick/Warrick/Archie/Greg way.

Best solution for the shipping wars, I say.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Orgies!

Yes. The trout agrees.

[b2wm.livejournal.com]

I swear HPverse was made for threesomes, as well. Bella/Rudolphus/Voldie, Tonks/Lupin/Sirius, (If they're good, maybe we'd even let Draco and Ginny join the Trio pairing...)

[b2wm.livejournal.com]

As a Hurin defender, "I believe in trees" shipper, occasional villian sympathizer, and general canon nut, Insert Giantic WORD here.

Get in the characters' heads, Suethor. Don't force the characters into your head. There's not enough room.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Yes.

In fact, the same is really part of the Mary Sue problem - the author likes the creation so she forgets the characters might not share the love as much.

[belegcuthalion.livejournal.com]

OMG Teh AntiKr CryChrist is no woman!!!

*waves her bible hysterically*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Come out of the Dark Ages and into gender equality, woman! :P

[colorstoobright.livejournal.com]

Argh, fandom. :(

[misscam.livejournal.com]

The madness never goes away.

[falena]

Shipping, no matter what fandom, can both scare me and amuse me at the same time.

And I love rabid shippers going all inquisition-like on poor fictional characters...

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Gotta love it. You know what particular stories sparked the rant this time, heh.

[caribbeanblue.livejournal.com]

Tonks is coolness walking -- the bashers are jealous.

Greg likes Sara, so if one wants to keep one's fic in canon, one had better give her at least ONE friend, if not more.

*stands and applauds*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

I think one can very well argue that she's friends with most of the team. Akwardly with Grissom sometimes and prone to some fighting with Catherine, granted. But mostly, the CSI team seem to all like each other.

[the-factionlair.livejournal.com]

Yay! I'm a little nerdy! (Good Omens = Best humour book ever)

...Also where can I get one of those pet Daleks?

[misscam.livejournal.com]

If I told, everyone would get one, now wouldn't they?

[ladyiapetus]

*thinks a pet Dalek would be fun* Stairs might be a bit of a problem, though...

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Nonsense. The modern Dalek can hover.

[boz4pm.livejournal.com]

Miss Cam, as a Book!Boromir and Film!Boromir (i.e. SB) luster I salute you.

Indeed, just because Boz was human and succumbed as anyone might in his situation doesn't mean he was Teh Evil, oh crap-author! The orcs, trolls, Sauron and Saruman were the bad guys. But you probably too busy drooling over Monsieur Bloom to notice. DO try and work out why a person might do a thing and whether such an action was inevitable. Boz died a noble death, was a Good Man, but his flawed humanity means you feel he must be an incestuous, drunken rapist butcher with more evil inside him than Sauron in a really bad mood. Have at ye! *thwaps Sue!author with a giant kipper*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Not to mention the book heavily implies sooner or later they might've all tried to take it. Boromir was simply in a more desperate situation. His country was falling into darkness, clinging on by a hair. It's no wonder he was tempted first.

And he did redeem himself, dammit.

Feeling a desire for power does not Uber!Evil make just like that, authors. Gah.

[silvery-lass.livejournal.com]

** Yes, according to some, Sara Sidle is apparently the Anti-Christ. I think Adam would have a few things to say about that (and those who get that reference are cool. And also a little nerdy).

Had had completely forgotten about the kid and I love that book, but then again I like the demon and the angel best, the four riders of the Apocalypse was funny too.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

They are an awesome due, though. And a very popular slash object, I understand.

[kahva.livejournal.com]

What is it with people having to character bash in their fics? If they're not making Boromir and/or Denethor just as evil as Sauron, they're swinging to the other extreme, bashing Legolas either because they perceive him as a throwaway character, or they decide after seeing the movie, "I HATE Orlando Bloom for his beauty and popularity!!!" and just go on a character assasination spree. Don't hate or bash characters because the actor is beautiful, and don't bash Gimli just because he's gruff, isn't all that enamored of the elves from the get go, and because you think he must stink and not bathe.

Clue-time here... Aragorn, Boromir and the Hobbits probably stank too. They were on the Quest for months, they slept outside the bulk of that time - do you honestly think that they stayed every night at the Middle Earth Motel 6? "We'll leave the candle burning for you."

I don't get the Arwen bashers either, which seems to come from either jealousy that Liv Tyler is the one who got to kiss Viggo Mortenson, or, "She stole Glorfindel's part!!" Um, Arwen, nor Liv Tyler stole anything, PJ and Co. had to make a choice about what they could film, and what they couldn't, to make the best films they could. Bashing characters doesn't change that it was a movie choice. If you don't like what was done, then write fanfiction based from the book. And you still don't have to bash Arwen.

And I'll stop here before I get into the Elizabeth, Norrington, Governor Swann and Lt. Gillette bashing, or the making of Will into an idiot, Anamaria into a shrew, Jack into a perpetual drunk... If I don't stop now, I'm going to be late for work, in addition to not being able to stop wanting to torture bashers with non-stop playing of Barney, Teletubbies, and Boohbah.

With brief breaks of Rosanne Barr/Arnold/whatever she's calling herself now butchering The Star Spangled Banner.

[araeph.livejournal.com]

What's almost worse is when the Suethors don't actively bash a character, but rather make virtuous canonicals into horrible and/or weak-willed people just because that's how they perceive them or felt like writing them. Messing up a personality because you just didn't care that much makes me wonder why you would call yourself a fan in the first place.

...Not having anything to do, of course, with the PotC Sue that's going to be reported tonight. Nope.

[acaciaonnastik.livejournal.com]

Oh, I loathe bashing. Of any kind. Even of characters I can't stand myself. Atlantis' Dr. Kavanagh needs adding to that list of yours.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Who's he and how does he get bashed?

[highwindpav.livejournal.com]

Rargh, my hate for bash-fic is almost unparalleled. OK, I can't stand Sofia, but if she ever appeared in a fic I wrote, I'd try my hardest to see things from her point of view. So what if she has a thing for older men (like a huge chunk of the CSI fandom)? Is this unusual?

Maybe you could add "Shrieking Witch Beast from Hell" to the list, for all the canonical love interests that get slaughtered by authors just so they can get to the cute boys having sex...

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah, forgot the female butchering in some slash stories. Definitely a popular one.

the ways people can twist a character just baffles me. How does anyone get things that wrong?

[ekwy.livejournal.com]

I never got the whole bashing genre... Is it supposed to make them feel better about the fact that [insert hated character here] exists, or what? *ponders*

Now, here I have a choice. I COULD quote Eddie Izzard's little bit about the Daleks, because I'm quirky that way, but I know that people might not be interested in his awesomeness, so therefore I shall not quote him. But know that he HAS a little bit about the Daleks. *nods*

I am cool and a little nerdy. This feels surprisingly good.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Get out agression? Attempt to convince others? Who knows...

Quote! Gimme!

[losseniaiel.livejournal.com]

*ded from your icon*

[misscam.livejournal.com]

Exterminated!

[psychicsaphie.livejournal.com]

Thank you! {pets Ron} Seriously, just because the reader hates them doesn't mean the other characters would kick them in the crotch and laugh as they wriggle around in pain on the ground.

[erhothwen.livejournal.com]

*huggles the beloved characters*

[elvenpiratelady.livejournal.com]

Hear, hear!

*Winces at the thought of Dalek porn - almost as bad as Dementors breeding*

[git-the-goddess.livejournal.com]

What a very ...interesting... idea!

I'm sure I could write a crossover!